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[Umigami]

South East Asian Eagles

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[schuimpjes]

Rocket is where US and Russia can cooperate really, take Antares, largest Northrop Grumman’s operational rocket for example. Eventhough, Pivdenmash is in Ukraine, but this before called as OKB-586. Karena orang pribadi gak boleh punya perusahaan disana (jadi pemilik modal/kapitalis) dulu, jadi orang-orang ‘pemeran utama’ itu kerja dibawah negara di OKB-OKB itu. Jadi gak kayak; Suzuki, Kawasaki, Mitsubishi dll yang swasta gitu.

OKB itu biasanya pake nama pemain utama di respective OKB nya masing-masing. OKB-586, pemain utamanya namanya Yengel. Dia sebelumnya kerja di OKB-nya Korolev, OKB-1. OKB-1 ini yang jadi pemeran utama di meluncurnya Yuri Gagarin, bisa dibilang OKB yang paling utama di space programnya Soviet lah. Terus ada OKB-456 nya Glushko. OKB-456 ini yang desain RD-170 yang akhirnya punya turunan RD-180 yang dipake di Atlas V tadi, sama turunannya di Antares yang tadi di awal. Banyak mesin roket OKB nya Glushko dipake di Soyuz OKB nya Korolev.

Itu cuman beberapa OKB aku bahas, ada OKB nya Sukhoi, Beriev, Mikoyan dll. Itu nama orang yang jadi ‘pemain utama’ lah di Biro Desain milik Negara nya masing-masing.

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[schuimpjes]

China, Airbus among potential losers from boosted US-Vietnam ties

The United States and Vietnam agreed on Sunday to upgrade their diplomatic relations in a historic step for the two former foes, paving the way for business deals and possible new investment. But for every winner there is often a loser.

www.reuters.com

Soal HAM, AS bener-bener dianggep nge-sideline soal ini demi kepentingan ‘yang lain’. Menurutku juga iya.

Interestingly, artikel ini ngangkat dikit tentang dokumen rencana ‘secret deal’’ Vietnam–Rusia soal pengadaan senjata.

Jadi pembayarannya lewat perusahaan minyak kerjasama Vietnam sama Rusia di Siberia, Rusvietpetro. Pemerintah Vietnam bayarnya ke perusahaan itu untuk beli senjatanya, ngehindarin sanksi.

Edit:

Tambahan tentang Vietnam juga

EV maker VinFast plans Asia expansion, to launch Indonesia plant in 2026 - Companies - The Jakarta Post

Vietnamese electric vehicle maker VinFast plans to expand in seven more markets in Asia, including Indonesia, where it aims to start deliveries from next year and establish a plant in 2026.

www.thejakartapost.com

‘Bosnya’ punya brand mie instan namanya Mivina di Ukraina setelah dia sekolah di Moskow. 2009 dijual ke Nestlé.

 

[Lordimperator]

South East Asian Eagles

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hayo duluan mana, Polandia atau Indonesia yang beli wkwk

 

[Lordimperator]

previously claimed to be hoax seems to rise up again, do you guys think this has anything to do with chinese minister of defense missing recently ???

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1701695652147675519

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"Another clue was that the radiological monitoring aircraft WC-135R (registration number 64-14831) of the US Air Force continued to operate in the suspected area of the Chinese submarine disaster. The aircraft flew on September 6 into the airspace over the East China and Yellow Seas to monitor background radiation."

https://x.com/CollinSLKoh/status/1702068068711792747?s=20

the article MTL to English:

(Central News Agency reporter You Kaixiang, Taipei, 12th) Recently, it was reported again that the Type 093 nuclear submarine of the Communist Army had an accident during a training exercise in the Yellow Sea, and all officers and soldiers were killed. The Ministry of National Defense stated today that the relevant information must be classified as extremely confidential. The National Army will obtain relevant details, but due to the sensitivity of the matter, it is inconvenient to disclose it

共軍潛艦遇難傳聞再起 國防部：事涉機敏不便透露 | 政治 | 中央社 CNA

近期再度傳出共軍「093」型核潛艦於黃海演訓發生意外、官兵全數罹難。國防部今天表示，相關訊息必然屬於極高度的絕對機密，國軍會去掌握相關細節，但因為事涉機敏，不便透露。

www.cna.com.tw

 

[Gary]

https://x.com/CollinSLKoh/status/1702068068711792747?s=20

the article MTL to English:

共軍潛艦遇難傳聞再起 國防部：事涉機敏不便透露 | 政治 | 中央社 CNA

近期再度傳出共軍「093」型核潛艦於黃海演訓發生意外、官兵全數罹難。國防部今天表示，相關訊息必然屬於極高度的絕對機密，國軍會去掌握相關細節，但因為事涉機敏，不便透露。

www.cna.com.tw

one less PLAN boat to be worried about

 

[Lordimperator]

one less PLAN boat to be worried about

hopefully

 

[Gary]

Thunder Run 2003, mungkin inspirasi Putin ketika menyebrang ke Ukraine menuju Kyiv. Penggal langsung kepala pemerintahan, pasang pemerintahan boneka. Playbook klasik. Sayangnya perencanaan nya ga matang, underestimate lawan dan over confident sama diri sendiri (mungkin karena kemakan propaganda sendiri) jadi lupa kalau tentara Russia di medan perang itu tidak segagah goose step mereka di Kremlin. Masa iya mau menduduki kota populasi 3 juta+ tentaranya baru dikasi tau H-1 sebelum operasi

Perbedaan perencanaan militer antara 2 negara yang membedakan kenapa yang diatas bisa "dipasang" di Baghdad, dan yang dibawah gagal dipasang di Kyiv.

 

[Parry Brima]

https://x.com/CollinSLKoh/status/1702068068711792747?s=20

the article MTL to English:

共軍潛艦遇難傳聞再起 國防部：事涉機敏不便透露 | 政治 | 中央社 CNA

近期再度傳出共軍「093」型核潛艦於黃海演訓發生意外、官兵全數罹難。國防部今天表示，相關訊息必然屬於極高度的絕對機密，國軍會去掌握相關細節，但因為事涉機敏，不便透露。

www.cna.com.tw

Kl mengacu ke skenario film :

1. The Hunt for Red October
Kapal selam nuklir China ga kecelakaan, tp membelot. Taiwan jd Jack Ryan (perantara).

2. Mission Impossible 7
Kapal selam nuklir China memuat teknologi A.I. yg gone rogue. Skrg semua negara pd berebut ke reruntuhan kapal buat merampas teknologi tsb.

3. Crimson Tide
Terjadi pemberontakan di dlm kapal selam nuklir China yg dipimpin oleh si XO, melawan komandan kapal yg memerintahkan peluncuran rudal ke Taiwan.

(yg laen ga inget)

 

[Lordimperator]

Kl mengacu ke skenario film :

1. The Hunt for Red October
Kapal selam nuklir China ga kecelakaan, tp membelot. Taiwan jd Jack Ryan (perantara).

2. Mission Impossible 7
Kapal selam nuklir China memuat teknologi A.I. yg gone rogue. Skrg semua negara pd berebut ke reruntuhan kapal buat merampas teknologi tsb.

3. Crimson Tide
Terjadi pemberontakan di dlm kapal selam nuklir China yg dipimpin oleh si XO, melawan komandan kapal yg memerintahkan peluncuran rudal ke Taiwan.

(yg laen ga inget)

Di setiap kasel PLAN ada superbodi/pengawas partai kan?

 

[R4duga]

Kl mengacu ke skenario film :

1. The Hunt for Red October
Kapal selam nuklir China ga kecelakaan, tp membelot. Taiwan jd Jack Ryan (perantara).

2. Mission Impossible 7
Kapal selam nuklir China memuat teknologi A.I. yg gone rogue. Skrg semua negara pd berebut ke reruntuhan kapal buat merampas teknologi tsb.

3. Crimson Tide
Terjadi pemberontakan di dlm kapal selam nuklir China yg dipimpin oleh si XO, melawan komandan kapal yg memerintahkan peluncuran rudal ke Taiwan.

(yg laen ga inget)

or just clumsy or another defect, i still remember that one chinese submarine accident where the submarine still intact but the entire crew goes kaput because the diesel engine failed to shut down during submerge, it's probably a painless death for all the crew (asphyxiation).

 

[Lordimperator]

or just clumsy or another defect, i still remember that one chinese submarine accident where the submarine still intact but the entire crew goes kaput because the diesel engine failed to shut down during submerge, it's probably a painless death for all the crew (asphyxiation).

When?

 

[this is crunch]

Biden mau dimakzulkan?

What’s the basis of the Republicans’ Joe Biden impeachment inquiry?

Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives hold their first hearing on Thursday in an impeachment inquiry into Democratic President Joe Biden after months of investigations of his son Hunter Biden's foreign business dealings. They have not found any evidence of misconduct by Biden himself.

www.reuters.com

 

[NEKO]

Kl mengacu ke skenario film :

1. The Hunt for Red October
Kapal selam nuklir China ga kecelakaan, tp membelot. Taiwan jd Jack Ryan (perantara).

2. Mission Impossible 7
Kapal selam nuklir China memuat teknologi A.I. yg gone rogue. Skrg semua negara pd berebut ke reruntuhan kapal buat merampas teknologi tsb.

3. Crimson Tide
Terjadi pemberontakan di dlm kapal selam nuklir China yg dipimpin oleh si XO, melawan komandan kapal yg memerintahkan peluncuran rudal ke Taiwan.

(yg laen ga inget)

Hunter killer.

 

[this is crunch]

Im wondering, where did alman get his information about blue book and green book revision, does it open to public? or via orang dalam..?

 

[Umigami]

Im wondering, where did alman get his information about blue book and green book revision, does it open to public? or via orang dalam..?

If it's so easily accessible, he would be irrelevant.

 

[R4duga]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1702003830475436084

 

[this is crunch]

If it's so easily accessible, he would be irrelevant.

that's right, for now he is monopolizing the information, that makes it easy for him to make the information solely to his advantage, wether it's marketing, conten creating, or any other purpose, we can't cross check what he's saying, that is annoying.

 

[chibiyabi]

Im wondering, where did alman get his information about blue book and green book revision, does it open to public? or via orang dalam..?

salah satu bisnis paling gelap, pat gulipatnya tinggi, saling sikutnya paling keras selain bisnis instrumen kesehatan ya alutsista, seseorang yg ga puas terkait hasil, baik disisi pemerintah maupun swastanya dpt dgn gampang mendapatkan ginian, simpelnya si alman ini cuma jadi corong dari yg punya kepentingan lebih gede, biar klo ada apa apa pionnya doang yg kena sikat..

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1702537468543992261