Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

Ravager

Contributor
Messages
1,034
Reactions
3 1,170
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
They‘ll die like shithouse flies. Israel hasn‘t started yet. Gaza will be pulverized and the ongoing air strikes are only an appetizer. Main course is coming …


Gaza's obliteration and Hamas martyrdom was a foregone conclusion . But , do you really think that the resistance movement will ceased too ??
We will find out in the coming years ...
No one here is saying they will prevail either, I personally wants HAMAS to fight as hard as they until they all die knowing that doom is near.

Sun Tzu said in his book The Art of War:



IMO HAMAS is now at the point where they are only given the choice of death and fight. Either way, they will die, so why not make this fight as hard and as brutal as possible and do give us Muslims watching this a favor: A pretext for whatever retaliation our grandchildren will exact on Israel once the balance of power reverses.;)
Make no mistake . Most moslem ( me included ) have no problems with the jews . The Entity of Israel and US treatment toward moslem were the source of all this problem in the first place ...
Sooner or later US light wlll stop shining . And when that time comes . I dreaded on what would befell unto Israel .. yes they have nuke . So what... The jihadist won't give a damn about it at all . And if they do used it ?? The state of Israel will perish entirely ...
 

Gary

Experienced member
Messages
7,894
Reactions
21 12,465
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
No one here is saying they will prevail either, I personally want HAMAS to fight as hard as they can until they all die knowing that doom is near.

Sun Tzu said in his book The Art of War:



IMO HAMAS is now at the point where they are only given the choice of death and fight. Either way, they will die, so why not make this fight as hard and as brutal as possible and do give us Muslims watching this a favor: A pretext for whatever retaliation our grandchildren will exact on Israel once the balance of power reverses.;)

Thinking about it, the Greeks lost 300 of their best man In Thermopylae and the Persians sacked Platea and Thespiae. 149 years later Alexander of Macedon rap*d Darius army in Gaugamela and entered Babylon.

The Persians destroyed Greek cities and decimated their army, but failed to wipe out the Greek population, so does today the Israelis think they can win in the long run by sacking Gaza, not knowing that the base composition of Palestinians which is Arabs and Muslims are actually left unscathed.:p

I hope the Palestinians have this view.

So yeah, good tradeoff in the long run.
 
Last edited:

Rodeo

Contributor
Moderator
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
1,282
Reactions
31 4,925
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
No one here is saying they will prevail either, I personally wants HAMAS to fight as hard as they until they all die knowing that doom is near.

Sun Tzu said in his book The Art of War:



IMO HAMAS is now at the point where they are only given the choice of death and fight. Either way, they will die, so why not make this fight as hard and as brutal as possible and do give us Muslims watching this a favor: A pretext for whatever retaliation our grandchildren will exact on Israel once the balance of power reverses.;)
So the muslim children will grow up to think that HAMAS militants were heros? You can be sure that those children will become Hafeez or preacher and not an engineer or a scientist. Their last resort would be amassing a few thousand muslims to pray and curse the infidels before the most cutting-edge weapons from the skies obliterate them. And the solution will always be more praying. It's god's will in the end and it has nothing to do with muslim's world-view and actions.
 

Ravager

Contributor
Messages
1,034
Reactions
3 1,170
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
So the muslim children will grow up to think that HAMAS militants were heros? You can be sure that those children will become Hafeez or preacher and not an engineer or a scientist. Their last resort would be amassing a few thousand muslims to pray and curse the infidels before the most cutting-edge weapons from the skies obliterate them. And the solution will always be more praying. It's god's will in the end and it has nothing to do with muslim's world-view and actions.
Don't you understand the meaning words of " bidding time " ??
If 80% moslem population of Indonesia who in faraway land dreaming of Al-aqsa liberation . How many more out there were share the same aspirations ??
Don't belittle ummah ...and yet never sold that word cheaply too ...
I might not seeing it in my life time but i sincerely believe it will be done like much i believe indonesia's ascendancy into 4th largest economy in the coming years ...

Salam ..
 

Chocopie

Contributor
South Korea Correspondent
Messages
531
Reactions
33 1,953
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
South Korea
No one here is saying they will prevail either, I personally want HAMAS to fight as hard as they can until they all die knowing that doom is near.

Sun Tzu said in his book The Art of War:



IMO HAMAS is now at the point where they are only given the choice of death and fight. Either way, they will die, so why not make this fight as hard and as brutal as possible and do give us Muslims watching this a favor: A pretext for whatever retaliation our grandchildren will exact on Israel once the balance of power reverses.;)
No choice? Hamas has chosen to indiscriminately rape, kill, murder, loot and mutilate innocent civilians. Best example murdering and taking Nepalese, Thai and Filipino foreign workers hostage.

Hamas chose to go full Armageddon hiding between Gaza civilians and taking everyone with them to hell. Stop dreaming and fantasizing: your muslim ummah does only exist in delusional dumbheads and in the next centuries Middle Eastern muslims will live in hellholes for generations to come or debauche in diabetes and degeneracy like the fat-ass Gulf states.
 

Chocopie

Contributor
South Korea Correspondent
Messages
531
Reactions
33 1,953
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
South Korea
Gaza's obliteration and Hamas martyrdom was a foregone conclusion . But , do you really think that the resistance movement will ceased too ??
We will find out in the coming years ...

Make no mistake . Most moslem ( me included ) have no problems with the jews . The Entity of Israel and US treatment toward moslem were the source of all this problem in the first place ...
Sooner or later US light wlll stop shining . And when that time comes . I dreaded on what would befell unto Israel .. yes they have nuke . So what... The jihadist won't give a damn about it at all . And if they do used it ?? The state of Israel will perish entirely ...
„Hamas martyrdom“? Stop replying to me, I don‘t converse with terror supporters.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Gary

Experienced member
Messages
7,894
Reactions
21 12,465
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
No choice? Hamas has chosen to indiscriminately rape, kill, murder, loot and mutilate innocent civilians. Best example murdering and taking Nepalese, Thai and Filipino foreign workers hostage.
Violence goes both ways
Hamas chose to go full Armageddon hiding between Gaza civilians and taking everyone with them to hell. Stop dreaming and fantasizing: your muslim ummah does exist in delusional dumbheads and in the next centuries Middle Eastern muslims will live in hellholes for generations to come or debauche in diabetes and degeneracy like the fat-ass Gulf states.
Samuel B Huntington lists 9 civilizations, 3 are on top. The West, Islam and China.

Just like China manages to bounce back from its century of humiliation, so will the Islamic civilizations. It's given. People might have forget that just 100 years ago the Chinese are having their 21st-century Middle Eastern moment, where outside occupiers (small in number) can do whatever they want to a pacified populace, with only the Boxers as their hope.


HAMAS is the 21st-century Boxers of out time, even if they are defeated.

Today those colonizers in the video are either docile states like Germany or shrinking empires like Britain, while China grows to the giant we know, so yeah I prefer a long strategy with Israel knowing full well the trend of power is on our side not theirs.
 

Ravager

Contributor
Messages
1,034
Reactions
3 1,170
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
No choice? Hamas has chosen to indiscriminately rape, kill, murder, loot and mutilate innocent civilians. Best example murdering and taking Nepalese, Thai and Filipino foreign workers hostage.

Hamas chose to go full Armageddon hiding between Gaza civilians and taking everyone with them to hell. Stop dreaming and fantasizing: your muslim ummah does only exist in delusional dumbheads and in the next centuries Middle Eastern muslims will live in hellholes for generations to come or debauche in diabetes and degeneracy like the fat-ass Gulf states.
And what do you think happened to the palestinian on daily basis ?? Nobody condone their action !! It is forbidden by the holy book . But , after years of denigration and supression into the inhumane levels yet never been heard or responded by the so callled champion of human right and moralities . every moslem here could see where the rage are coming from ...

Stop watching mainstram media outlet will you ...
 

Rodeo

Contributor
Moderator
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
1,282
Reactions
31 4,925
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Uhh this is one of those logical fallacies in our time, please don't do armed struggle, do science lol. Does Mustafa Kemal waited for Turkish industry to develop KAAN to start kicking the occupiers in Anatolia?

Struggle on the field and in the lab can go both ways.

* I will move this post to a relevant thread as it deviates from the topic*

There were no tech-gap between the Greeks and Turks in 1920s. If there were, we would be defeated. And if we are developing KAAN today, it's in no small part thanks to Atatürk's secular education reforms.

And you're speaking of a future society who is going to avenge Palestinians. Not of Palestinians themselves. If those folk did not develop the mindset to become good at science and technology, no amount of praying, unity or indoctrination will save them.
 

Gary

Experienced member
Messages
7,894
Reactions
21 12,465
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Violence goes both ways

Samuel B Huntington lists 9 civilizations, 3 are on top. The West, Islam and China.

Just like China manages to bounce back from its century of humiliation, so will the Islamic civilizations. It's given. People might have forget that just 100 years ago the Chinese are having their 21st-century Middle Eastern moment, where outside occupiers (small in number) can do whatever they want to a pacified populace, with only the Boxers as their hope.


HAMAS is the 21st-century Boxers of out time, even if they are defeated.

Today those colonizers in the video are either docile states like Germany or shrinking empires like Britain, while China grows to the giant we know, so yeah I prefer a long strategy with Israel knowing full well the trend of power is on our side not theirs.
Boxers
clashes-on-the-streets-of-beijing.jpg


HAMAS
904C8D43-7C06-4EFC-BCB6-41E72D6B41BC.jpg
 

Afif

Experienced member
Moderator
Bangladesh Correspondent
DefenceHub Diplomat
Bangladesh Moderator
Messages
4,119
Reactions
65 7,563
Nation of residence
Bangladesh
Nation of origin
Bangladesh
Hamas has chosen to indiscriminately rape,

I Didn’t find any convincing proof yet. Can you share any evidence link to back up your claim?

Note- keep in mind, i don’t support Hamas killing children and civilians.
 
Last edited:

Chocopie

Contributor
South Korea Correspondent
Messages
531
Reactions
33 1,953
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
South Korea
Violence goes both ways

Samuel B Huntington lists 9 civilizations, 3 are on top. The West, Islam and China.

Just like China manages to bounce back from its century of humiliation, so will the Islamic civilizations. It's given. People might have forget that just 100 years ago the Chinese are having their 21st-century Middle Eastern moment, where outside occupiers (small in number) can do whatever they want to a pacified populace, with only the Boxers as their hope.


HAMAS is the 21st-century Boxers of out time, even if they are defeated.

Today those colonizers in the video are either docile states like Germany or shrinking empires like Britain, while China grows to the giant we know, so yeah I prefer a long strategy with Israel knowing full well the trend of power is on our side not theirs.
Samuel Huntington is a total tool, his civilization-theory is refuted by academia and has no meaning in today’s world. It’s full of holes like a open whorehouse.
 

Gary

Experienced member
Messages
7,894
Reactions
21 12,465
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Samuel Huntington is a total tool, his civilization-theory is refuted by academia and has no meaning in today’s world. It’s full of holes like a open whorehouse.
Yes, but facts on the ground do confirm regardless of what academia thinks. It really is these 3 civilizations all over the place taking turns influencing how the world is run. And China bouncing back is the confirmation.

People tend to forget that Western civilization too experienced their downs after the collapse of the Roman empire only to get back on foot with the Renaissance.

For a country like Israel whose very security is dependent on the help and pity of a country thousand of miles away, the repercussions does goes against their long-term well-being. They act all this powerful and haught with the power they "borrow" from Washington. Once those dried up, you're left on your own. 9 Million people in the sea of Arabs.

Yeah sounds like good long-term planning by the IDF when they said they want to make this unforgettable for the next 50 years. If I may, please up the game so that in 100 years people will not forget and I mean it.

 

Sanchez

Experienced member
Moderator
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
1,689
Reactions
61 7,661
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Said who ?? US ?? Israel ?? China ?? Who we are to judge other ? Are we a world's sanctioned policeman ?? Mandated by the whole UN members ??
What a naivettes ...
I'm saying it and believe Turkish state also thinks it to be the case.

Given two choices between both Iran and Turkey having nukes or not, Turkey will choose neither having it. We don't want a nuclear Iran and just getting your own nuke doesn't stop a nuclear Iran going apeshit in the region. We don't live in the 1950's, that's not how deterrence works.
 

Rooxbar

Contributor
Think Tank Analyst
Messages
463
Reactions
41 1,488
Nation of residence
Nethelands
Nation of origin
Turkey
No choice? Hamas has chosen to indiscriminately rape, kill, murder, loot and mutilate innocent civilians. Best example murdering and taking Nepalese, Thai and Filipino foreign workers hostage.

Hamas chose to go full Armageddon hiding between Gaza civilians and taking everyone with them to hell. Stop dreaming and fantasizing: your muslim ummah does only exist in delusional dumbheads and in the next centuries Middle Eastern muslims will live in hellholes for generations to come or debauche in diabetes and degeneracy like the fat-ass Gulf states.
You should never let the media you consume determine how you think. And you shouldn't consume media from one side only. This is the problem I see in many Western populations in the Ukraine-Russia war.


Infographic_Fragmentation-1229x1536.jpg
16516.jpeg

7fd47b9fd8dd4c2aa8784bc26bbc3f96.jpg
AFSC-Gaza-by-the-numbers-infographic.png

d81523aafec01aa9b2dc108b486ad7fc.jpg
VP-101-03-Inequality-FINAL-AB-20190911_05.jpg


VP-101-02-Control-FINAL-AB-20191112_04.jpg


If South Koreans were living under this conditions under an Israeli government, 90% of your population would be calling for the second holocaust by now.
 

Chocopie

Contributor
South Korea Correspondent
Messages
531
Reactions
33 1,953
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
South Korea
I Didn’t find any convincing proof yet. Can you share any evidence link to back up your claim?

Note- keep in mind, i don’t support Hamas killing children and civilians.
Don‘t feign „civility“ while HAHA-commenting my posts. You’re reeking of pro-Palestinian odor.

So, killing, kidnapping, mutilating and parading naked corpses was proven by Hamas themselves with their videos. Now you want some raping clips as solid proof? Cause, Hamas kills but doesn‘t rape, bro?!
So they ain‘t that bad, fighting for freedom.

An Israeli magazine, eyewitness reports: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/israel-music-festival-massacre-eyewitness-account

All the ummah bros crying: „Jewish propaganda.“
 

Chocopie

Contributor
South Korea Correspondent
Messages
531
Reactions
33 1,953
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
South Korea
You should never let the media you consume determine how you think. And you shouldn't consume media from one side only. This is the problem I see in many Western populations in the Ukraine-Russia war.


Infographic_Fragmentation-1229x1536.jpg
16516.jpeg

7fd47b9fd8dd4c2aa8784bc26bbc3f96.jpg
2f23f818-3e13-45a2-ad68-ab76e512f527.png

d81523aafec01aa9b2dc108b486ad7fc.jpg
VP-101-03-Inequality-FINAL-AB-20190911_05.jpg


VP-101-02-Control-FINAL-AB-20191112_04.jpg


If South Koreans were living under this conditions under an Israeli government, 90% of your population would be calling for the second holocaust by now.
Stop patronizing, dude. I‘m well aware of that conflict and the historical background. I don‘t educate myself via Youtube and assorted propaganda graphics assisting your narrative. Chuckle.
 

Gary

Experienced member
Messages
7,894
Reactions
21 12,465
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
* I will move this post to a relevant thread as it deviates from the topic*

There were no tech-gap between the Greeks and Turks in 1920s. If there were, we would be defeated. And if we are developing KAAN today, it's in no small part thanks to Atatürk's secular education reforms.

And you're speaking of a future society who is going to avenge Palestinians. Not of Palestinians themselves. If those folk did not develop the mindset to become good at science and technology, no amount of praying, unity or indoctrination will save them.
That's it ? You do realize that the rise of COTS technology now somewhat leveled the playing games between capabilities that is usually exclusively reserved for state actors are now accessible to non-state actors ?

Back then nobody would've believed that in due time, there will be an airstrike by Palestinian (drones) against an Israeli base lol.
 

Rooxbar

Contributor
Think Tank Analyst
Messages
463
Reactions
41 1,488
Nation of residence
Nethelands
Nation of origin
Turkey
Stop patronizing, dude. I‘m well aware of that conflict and the historical background. I don‘t educate myself via Youtube and assorted propaganda graphics assisting your narrative. Chuckle.
You replied too fast, you didn't even have the time to skip through the graphs. If you're trying to be intentionally obtuse, no one can change that, that's for sure. The graphs are mostly comprised of data from Israeli government btw, because that's the only source of info for that part of the world, or amnesty international and UN missions, not that you care. Or are you suggesting Israeli government, Amnesty International and UN are also trying to help "my narrative"?

And you are not well aware of anything. You're just a poor propagandized soul.
 

MaciekRS

Well-known member
Moderator
Poland Moderator
Messages
378
Reactions
4 1,045
Nation of residence
Poland
Nation of origin
Poland
"All payments immediately suspended. •All projects put under review. •All new budget proposals, incl. for 2023 postponed until further notice. •Comprehensive assessment of the whole portfolio."
No more money from Europe to terrorists. They wanted to start the war with whole world, so be it. Germany and Austria are cutting off their funds too.
 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom