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The Jews aren’t courageous to fight Gaza nvm whole Arab coalition we know the we Militarily can mop the floor with Zionist diaper
I mean... They were teamed up against and attacked by a multi-national, surprise force that significantly outnumbered them militarily in 1973... And they systematically kicked in the teeth of their attackers in so substantially that the war was over in less than three weeks, with the attackers suffering 3-4× the casualties than the Israelis.

Let's not try to forget recent history. When countries in that region have stepped up before, Israel embarrassed their military(s). I'm not saying that it would play out that way again, but let's not pretend that Israel doesn't have a history of humbling their opponents in the region.
 

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Hamas announced on the radio that it had captured a soldier from the Israeli special forces.
Quite possible. I'm not going to deny it without any evidence, but I'm also not going to simply believe it because Hamas said it and provided no video evidence to support it.

They also said (through the Gaza health ministry) that 500 people were killed in the hospital attack. It appears that the real number was / is far less than that.
 

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I mean... They were teamed up against and attacked by a multi-national, surprise force that significantly outnumbered them militarily in 1973... And they systematically kicked in the teeth of their attackers in so substantially that the war was over in less than three weeks, with the attackers suffering 3-4× the casualties than the Israelis.

Let's not try to forget recent history. When countries in that region have stepped up before, Israel embarrassed their military(s). I'm not saying that it would play out that way again, but let's not pretend that Israel doesn't have a history of humbling their opponents in the region.

Israelis also beaten the Soviets in a dogfight.

Which I say pretty impressive.

Communist Albania also humilaited the Soviets by capturing their Submarine bases in Albania.
 

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A very small "warning" strike by the U.S. of course, who has a full stockpile of air and sea launched precision munitions available to them, due to the fact that they've given almost no weapons of those categories to Ukraine in their defense against Russia.

They'll give the Iranians every opportunity to back down and put a leash on their proxy groups, but if Iran wants to "keep it up" the air strikes in that region are going to get nasty in a hurry.

Two aircraft carrier wings worth of F-18s and F-35s is going to amount to roughly 150-200 Marine / Navy strike fighters. Between the air bases in Southern Europe and throughout the Middle East, USA can quickly bring an additional 250-300 Air Force strike aircraft into the theater quickly and efficiently. Add to that multiple Aegis cruisers and submarines that can fire cruise missiles accurately from the Mediterranean and a Robust drone fleet that can use precision munitions as well... It'll be bad news for Iran and Iranian proxies if they want to "step up".
 
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A very small "warning" strike by the U.S. of course, who has a full stockpile of air and sea launched precision munitions available to them, due to the fact that they've given almost no weapons of those categories to Ukraine in their defense against Russia.

They'll give the Iranians every opportunity to back down and put a leash on their proxy groups, but if Iran wants to "keep it up" the air strikes in that region are going to get nasty in a hurry.

Two aircraft carrier wings worth of F-18s and F-35s is going to amount to roughly 150-200 Marine / Navy strike fighters. Between the air bases in Southern Europe and throughout the Middle East, USA can quickly bring an additional 250-300 Air Force strike aircraft into the theater quickly and efficiently. Add to that multiple Aegis cruisers and submarines that can fire cruise missiles accurately from the Mediterranean and a Robust drone fleet that can use precision munitions as well... It'll be bad news for Iran and Iranian proxies if they want to "step up".

You still do not get it do you ?? Iran are using a proxy not his organic arms bodies . The cassus belli would be on US if they strike Iran directly . Just like Israel are taunting fatah and hezbos to join the fight when they are rheir strongest ...Iran are basically doing the same here .
Not to mention .. Proxies has a mobile camps which is very difficult to uproot and neutralized . Sooner or later US will face only 2 option ....get out or get in . Which both are dissastrous for their long term political calculation . And all of this because of the war who are not theirs and at the expense of their battered ukranian proxies ...

And Iranians are still chilling in their homes on that moment .
 

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You still do not get it do you ?? Iran are using a proxy not his organic arms bodies . The cassus belli would be on US if they strike Iran directly . Just like Israel are taunting fatah and hezbos to join the fight when they are rheir strongest ...Iran are basically doing the same here .
Not to mention .. Proxies has a mobile camps which is very difficult to uproot and neutralized . Sooner or later US will face only 2 option ....get out or get in . Which both are dissastrous for their long term political calculation . And all of this because of the war who are not theirs and at the expense of their battered ukranian proxies ...

And Iranians are still chilling in their homes on that moment .
The U.S. is fine. All they have to do is play the role of "bouncer" for Israel and ensure that no other conventional military joins the conflict. They're going to pass a $14.8 billion usd emergency military aid bill for Israel, which, of course, is pennies for them overall when we're talking military spending. Meanwhile, they'll pass a much larger spending bill for Ukraine, designed to continue to bleed the Soviet stockpile dry. They have no interest in Russia losing the war in Ukraine, quickly, or in any substantial way. They simply want to get a cheap price to eliminate the Russian stocpile of Soviet weapons, for an extremely cheap price, sending mostly weapons that have been stockpiled in wearhouses that were meant for the Cold War. Meanwhile, they got NATO expansion in the form of Finland and Sweden is right behind them. That means, the entire Russian border to West, with the exception of Belarus (an irrelevant country) will be protected by Article 5, putting our Russian adversaries in a terrible position relative to their expansionist hopes.

USA has no real interest in bombing Iran back into the stone age. A destabilized Iran (the mistake they made in Iraq) does nothing to support their national interests. Instead, they'll simply focus their efforts on using their military toys to hunt Iranian proxies in the region, and keep any significant force from joining the fight in any meaningful way against Israel.

It costs them very little to drone strike some proxies, or launch a couple cruise missiles into Syria, Lebanon, etc, etc just to let the proxy groups in the region know they're watching.
 
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A very small "warning" strike by the U.S. of course, who has a full stockpile of air and sea launched precision munitions available to them, due to the fact that they've given almost no weapons of those categories to Ukraine in their defense against Russia.

They'll give the Iranians every opportunity to back down and put a leash on their proxy groups, but if Iran wants to "keep it up" the air strikes in that region are going to get nasty in a hurry.

Two aircraft carrier wings worth of F-18s and F-35s is going to amount to roughly 150-200 Marine / Navy strike fighters.

Two carrier strike groups will carry around 90 fighters.

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Marine fighters are not part of CSG afaik.
 

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