Against modern Atgm's, it is useless, right.And I'm sure it would be just as useless as the Russian's if it came up against proper ATGMs.
Btw, can someone post new TRT-Belgesel video about Altay tank?
Against modern Atgm's, it is useless, right.And I'm sure it would be just as useless as the Russian's if it came up against proper ATGMs.
Btw, can someone post new TRT-Belgesel video about Altay tank?
I think initially the number is enough. Still it isn't clear tendencies of Future MBTs in the unmanned and electrical world.Isn't 250 a bit too low, hopefully that's just the first batch, we need 1000+ tanks that need replacement
Most probably these will be just a initial batch but until delivered they will be nothing special in terms of capabilities. I was always an advocate for intensified further studies on new generation tank that would be Altay 2 and deliveries of Altay in limited numbers while RD process of the new generation is going on.Isn't 250 a bit too low, hopefully that's just the first batch, we need 1000+ tanks that need replacement
I don’t know how up to date wikipedia is but if we have 785 M60 and 750 M48, surely Altay is worth acquiring in good numbers in this version as well. Soldiers are vocal about their dissatisfaction with older tanks.Most probably these will be just a initial batch but until delivered they will be nothing special in terms of capabilities. I was always an advocate for intensified further studies on new generation tank that would be Altay 2 and deliveries of Altay in limited numbers while RD process of the new generation is going on.
Hop! That's what I am talking about.
We should modernize the majority of our M60s to the MT level. M48s are good for next to nothing. They were used in the "Hendek" operations as moving cannons. When discussions were going on at the time I also defended a position where an independent tank fleet is formed within the Amphibious Marine Brigade Command consisting of light tanks configured according to the requirements of the TSK (The brigade is using old M48s of the Land Forces). They may be Kaplan MT or Tulpar specially equipped for the TSK.I don’t know how up to date wikipedia is but if we have 785 M60 and 750 M48, surely Altay is worth acquiring in good numbers in this version as well. Soldiers are vocal about their dissatisfaction with older tanks.
We should give several to each of companies that deal with land platforms and ask them to come up with something that they can be used for instead of scrap metal. Like a modernisation project to turn them into UGVs to support our tanks and infantry, so that they could have at least some value if we need to use them.M48s are good for next to nothing.
Let' hope we can jump to T2 really fast, because it is borderline insane that some of those upgrades aren't in T1.
Well that picture is really oldWe should give several to each of companies that deal with land platforms and ask them to come up with something that they can be used for instead of scrap metal. Like a modernisation project to turn them into UGVs to support our tanks and infantry, so that they could have at least some value if we need to use them.
Let' hope we can jump to T2 really fast, because it is borderline insane that some of those upgrades aren't in T1.
Turkey currently have 330 Leo2s and 160 M60Ts as its mainline tanks. Adding 250 Altays to that number is a 50% increase in mainline tanks. If and when T1 and T2 is complete, it will be the biggest modernization we had since Leo2 purchase in 2000s. 250 tanks is no small number and it will cost at least 3-5 billion dollars.I don’t know how up to date wikipedia is but if we have 785 M60 and 750 M48, surely Altay is worth acquiring in good numbers in this version as well. Soldiers are vocal about their dissatisfaction with older tanks.
I would very much like our tankers to not burn to a crisp when PKK decides to lob an ATGM over the Syrian border to their M60A3. Development of a new tank and production of Altay can go hand in hand.Hopefully after 250 tanks we completely stop the production other than possible exports and move on to a next-generation tank with hybrid propulsion and a 3-man crew.