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The SNA is now threatening the life of a prominent Turkish analyst, and his family:


"I am threatened by the so-called Joint Forces within the Syrian National Army. The two leaders of these two groups are responsible, from insults and threats against my family to crimes ranging from drugs to murder, from confiscation of property to kidnapping."

Again, TR pays the salary of the SNA. These groups abuse the Turkmen, Arab, Kurdish population they rule over.


The leader of one of these groups of were charged with rape and murder by a court within the Syrian interim government, but TR previously intervened to protect them. They are now currently allied with HTS and aided HTS in taking SNA territory against the Arab groups.

He is currently in TR and the gangs are threatening saying they can reach him anywhere in TR.
 

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The SNA is now threatening the life of a prominent Turkish analyst, and his family:


"I am threatened by the so-called Joint Forces within the Syrian National Army. The two leaders of these two groups are responsible, from insults and threats against my family to crimes ranging from drugs to murder, from confiscation of property to kidnapping."

Again, TR pays the salary of the SNA. These groups abuse the Turkmen, Arab, Kurdish population they rule over.


The leader of one of these groups of were charged with rape and murder by a court within the Syrian interim government, but TR previously intervened to protect them. They are now currently allied with HTS and aided HTS in taking SNA territory against the Arab groups.

The ones that threaten him and their criminal activities are represented by the Turkish flag in addition to the salaries.

 

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At least 6 tanks and many ACVs belonging to the Turkish Armed Forces were deployed between the Kafr Jannah - Saran district intersection, there is no tension between HTS and the Opposition. The reason for the deployment is unknown.

Local sources report that the Turkish Armed Forces went on alert by deploying tanks and ACVs for an unknown reason.


While this is happening there is a development related to HTS.

Jihad Isa Sheikh (Zakkour), one of HTS commanders and important financier, announced that he left HTS in a written statement. Jihad Isa Sheikh is in the sanction list of both the US and Turkiye. He intensively worked for the unifying of HTS and SNA groups in the Azez. He made a statement saying that he left HTS because of their practices such as kidnappings, assassinations, and attempts to divide factions of the Syrian opposition

Abu Mariya Qahtani, on Jawlani's left, had been in prison for a long time. He was one of the most prominent figures in HTS, but was arrested on charges of espionage (contacts with the Coalition) and he is accused by local media of plotting a coup against Joulani. The coup is planned by Qahtani and Zakkour with the support of Turkiye and aimed at eliminating Jawlani and his people, taking control over HTS and unifying HTS with SNA under a single leadership with the support of the Turkish Armed Forces.

It was alleged that Qahtani died last night, but according to media connected to Jihad Isa Sheikh he was badly tortured, but still alive. He is known for his works against Al-Qaeda in Idlib and is also a great supporter of Turkiye. According to some he is the person responsible for the green light by HTS for TSK presence in Idlib.

Idlib local media are publishing criticism against Jawlani which is unprecedented. There are rumors about other military commanders within HTS that are close to Jawlani which are taking place in this coup plan. The situation is critical and we may see critical events in the coming months regarding HTS.

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At least 6 tanks and many ACVs belonging to the Turkish Armed Forces were deployed between the Kafr Jannah - Saran district intersection, there is no tension between HTS and the Opposition. The reason for the deployment is unknown.

Local sources report that the Turkish Armed Forces went on alert by deploying tanks and ACVs for an unknown reason.


While this is happening there is a development related to HTS.

Jihad Isa Sheikh (Zakkour), one of HTS commanders and important financier, announced that he left HTS in a written statement. Jihad Isa Sheikh is in the sanction list of both the US and Turkiye. He intensively worked for the unifying of HTS and SNA groups in the Azez. He made a statement saying that he left HTS because of their practices such as kidnappings, assassinations, and attempts to divide factions of the Syrian opposition

Abu Mariya Qahtani, on Jawlani's left, had been in prison for a long time. He was one of the most prominent figures in HTS, but was arrested on charges of espionage (contacts with the Coalition) and he is accused by local media of plotting a coup against Joulani. The coup is planned by Qahtani and Zakkour with the support of Turkiye and aimed at eliminating Jawlani and his people, taking control over HTS and unifying HTS with SNA under a single leadership with the support of the Turkish Armed Forces.

It was alleged that Qahtani died last night, but according to media connected to Jihad Isa Sheikh he was badly tortured, but still alive. He is known for his works against Al-Qaeda in Idlib and is also a great supporter of Turkiye. According to some he is the person responsible for the green light by HTS for TSK presence in Idlib.

Idlib local media are publishing criticism against Jawlani which is unprecedented. There are rumors about other military commanders within HTS that are close to Jawlani which are taking place in this coup plan. The situation is critical and we may see critical events in the coming months regarding HTS.

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If it's publicised like this the initiative has already failed in my opinion

HTS will not unify under SNA, HTS will just keep consuming SNA and taking more land from SNA.

Unification = less money/resources/power for HTS
 

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If it's publicised like this the initiative has already failed in my opinion

HTS will not unify under SNA, HTS will just keep consuming SNA and taking more land from SNA.

Unification = less money/resources/power for HTS
The rumors are circulating from August.

While it is most probably dead cause the rumors state that there are many military commanders involved and as we know Qahtani was/is the second man in HTS so it is normal for him to have supporters. He is a fierce opposition to the Al-Qaeda supporters within the HTS stating that Saif Al-Adl (important Al-Qaeda ideolog and their current leader) is IRGC hostage and is playing according to Iran's directives.

Important part of these organizations is the financial part and now one of the most important financiers of HTS in the name of Zakkour is publicly stating that he is out. He took refuge in Azez as far as I know.

We may see some level of disintegration and groups defecting from HTS, which would lead to other events. It is important to keep Zakkour alive for his influence both when it comes to information, finances and also media influence.
 

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In the face of the fact that the United States directly supports the PKK/PYD/YPG organization in Syria and is listed as A "strategic partner" in official documents, we realistically need to know this:

As long as this support continues openly, we will only be able to conduct pinpoint operations. It is unlikely that we will undertake A major sweeping operation in the near future.

They will want to make us pay A very heavy price for this, both economically and militarily, and in this sense, we have no intention of engaging in A one-on-one confrontation with the US, nor is it wise at the moment.

However, point operations, while they may temporarily weaken and demoralize the other side, are unlikely to be successful in the long term.

Two possibilities remain.

1 - Maintaining the balance and waiting for the US withdrawal. Unfortunately, even though the US has left many regions after A while, it seems that it will not easily leave its presence in Syria without making gains.

Moreover, even if no gains are made, every extra day that the 100,000-odd trained, equipped, almost defacto state SDF they have created in front of us will make our survival even more risky. This risk is definitely not worth taking.

2-The Pakistani model, which I support and which is the only way that our capacity is sufficient in such A complex process, but which requires A serious structuring, political will and military strategy behind it.

In short, if you cannot afford it militarily and economically, you can use other social methods, which those close to the subject will know, to make it impossible to stay there and force withdrawal through internal public pressure.

There are ways to do this.It has A history. It has proven its success over and over again.

Yes, it is risky, but it is the most reasonable way to avoid direct confrontation with the US and, in my opinion, given the threats to our survival, it is the most reasonable way to take action as soon as possible. Otherwise, by 2025, the horse will have already crossed Üsküdar and we will hopefully not have to roll out the red carpet and welcome another regional administration into our home in the years to come. I hope...

May God protect our state and nation. 🇹🇷
What does he mean by "the Pakistani model"?
 
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Creating so much instability in Syria that the US is forced to retreat similar to the US retreating from Afghanistan. Pakistan was instrumental in the process of US withdrawal from Afghanistan. Pakistan replaced the US hard power(occupation) in Afghanistan with Chinese (Pakistan's ally) soft power. Of course, Imran Khan paid the price.
 

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Creating so much instability in Syria that the US is forced to retreat similar to the US retreating from Afghanistan. Pakistan was instrumental in the process of US withdrawal from Afghanistan. Pakistan replaced the US hard power(occupation) in Afghanistan with Chinese (Pakistan's ally) soft power. Of course, Imran Khan paid the price.

I don't think the Afghanistan model works in Syria. Terrain is much easier in Syria.
 

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Yep! As we talked earlier, we see the first signs of a major escalation.

Very serious situation right now as HTS supported group attacked the location of Jihad Isa Sheikh "Zakkour", one of the major financiers of HTS after he publicly announced that he left HTS. He was earlier accused of participating into a Qahtani (ex second in HTS rumored to be killed in HTS prison), pro-Turkiye coup against Joulani earlier in August.

Pro-HTS 50th Division attacked Zakkour's whereabouts in Turkish controlled Azez. Heavy fighting is going on right now. 50th Division sent reinforcements, The pro-Turkish Baqarah tribe announced mobilization in Al-Bab, Jarablus and Afrin against HTS and sent convoys, Syrian National Army is in state of military alarm. Clashes are still continuing at this moment. May Allah protect our soldiers and let's hope everything will pass without serious consequences.

 

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According to sources Zakkour was captured by the HTS... First you allow him enter and stay in Azez, then you allow HTS forces to enter, clash and capture him in your controlled territory. In result at least 6 civilians were wounded. What was their fault for the situation between two bandits? And Turkish authorities are waiting for the Syrians to return to their country. What a joke!

Wake up TSK! Bandits and terrorists are doing whatever they want in TSK controlled territory! Not only this but TSK also try to show force with what? With tanks older than my grandfather. Fiasco after fiasco... no more to say.


HTS yapar, TSK bakar. (HTS acting, TSK watching)

 

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Another important development! I would be happy to eat my words above. According to sources Turkiye ordered the Military Police to get Zakkour back from the HTS Idlib Security Service. They got him and received order to bring him to Hawar Kilis. Hawar Kilis is a place where the Turkish Intelligence is known to have participated in meetings before. Zakkour's brother was heavily injured and brought to a hospital in Afrin.

 

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Another important development! I would be happy to eat my words above. According to sources Turkiye ordered the Military Police to get Zakkour back from the HTS Idlib Security Service. They got him and received order to bring him to Hawar Kilis. Hawar Kilis is a place where the Turkish Intelligence is known to have participated in meetings before. Zakkour's brother was heavily injured and brought to a hospital in Afrin.


Shouldn't have happened in the first place. HTS must have traded him for something.

Or maybe the whole show proved he cannot be an alternative to Jolani and lost him support so he's no longer a threat.
 

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