Between 26-30 November 2023, 25 more L-UMTAS-Tandem missiles produced by Roketsan were delivered to the Turkish Armed Forces.
Between 26-30 November 2023, 25 more L-UMTAS-Tandem missiles produced by Roketsan were delivered to the Turkish Armed Forces.
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I actually like these kind of announcements. It only says that there is active production. No mention of past deliveries, no mention of if this is a new or ongoing deal, no mention of the total in stock and no mention of the production speed. If they are building them at the same speed year around, it would mean 2300 missiles.
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My understanding of Turkish is not very good,did it say it can use different warheads at 0:44?
What are they,other than the thermobaric one?
Probably Omtas missile
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I dont think so. Umtas/Omtas have different trajectory. This one must be Kornet , Milan or Tow.
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If I had to bet on it I'd put money on TOW, but definitely looks like something wire guided.
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please dedicate a thread for small aerial drones too "
TR Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series | UAV/UCAV Programs" thread & "TF-X KAAN | F-16 Özgür | Hürjet | Hürkuş - Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects" thread
is becoming a mess too
TR Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series | UAV/UCAV Programs" thread & "TF-X KAAN | F-16 Özgür | Hürjet | Hürkuş - Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects" thread
is becoming a mess too
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+1. Exactly!
We also have some atacms I think
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The animated video gives a very good approximation of how the logistics of a 300km range ATACMS missile work.
There are few important points that are intentionally omitted. ATACMS is essentially a short range quasi ballistic tactical missile. What makes it deadly is it’s capability to manoeuvre many times at random, in sideways as well as upwards and downwards, changing it’s course, making it very difficult. to track. It is also smaller than the comparable tactical missiles like Bora and Iskander/Kinzhal. Making it even more difficult to track.
Our Bora missile is the one that is closest to it. But we don’t know if Bora manoeuvres like ATACMS. The Russian missile Iskander manoeuvres. Chinese copied Iskander. We know that the origins of Bora is related to the Chinese missile. So logic dictates that Bora should manoeuvre as well.
The PrSM , Precision Strike Missile is a new missile being developed by LM of US which has recently been given the go ahead for serial production. This is a 500km range version of the ATACMS with a few more bells and whistles. As it is a new missile, not much is given away in terms of specifics apart from it’s range and being compatible with Himars launchers.
Precision Strike Missile (PrSM)
The PrSM is our next-generation, long-range precision-strike missile designed for the U.S. Army’s PrSM program, delivering unparalleled long-range capabilities.
US has been slow in the development of the tactical ballistic missiles. But the success of their HIMARS in Ukraine has been a wake up call.
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We do have a battery of ATACMS Block 1A with 300km range in stock with over a hundred missiles. But these missiles have shelf life. They were purchased just before 2000. If not replenished they will be no good now.
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Yıldırım, Bora, Kasırga, Kara Atmaca can be used. J-600T Yıldırım II 300 km range is similar.
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The animated video gives a very good approximation of how the logistics of a 300km range ATACMS missile work.
There are few important points that are intentionally omitted. ATACMS is essentially a short range quasi ballistic tactical missile. What makes it deadly is it’s capability to manoeuvre many times at random, in sideways as well as upwards and downwards, changing it’s course, making it very difficult. to track. It is also smaller than the comparable tactical missiles like Bora and Iskander/Kinzhal. Making it even more difficult to track.
Our Bora missile is the one that is closest to it. But we don’t know if Bora manoeuvres like ATACMS. The Russian missile Iskander manoeuvres. Chinese copied Iskander. We know that the origins of Bora is related to the Chinese missile. So logic dictates that Bora should manoeuvre as well.
The PrSM , Precision Strike Missile is a new missile being developed by LM of US which has recently been given the go ahead for serial production. This is a 500km range version of the ATACMS with a few more bells and whistles. As it is a new missile, not much is given away in terms of specifics apart from it’s range and being compatible with Himars launchers.
Our Tayfun can be the closest one to this missile. Yet we know that Tayfun can go longer than the 561 km range it demonstrated. (There are claims that it is a 800+ km missile even close to 1000km) . Although not disclosed, Tayfun is expected to hit moving sea targets too.Precision Strike Missile (PrSM)
The PrSM is our next-generation, long-range precision-strike missile designed for the U.S. Army’s PrSM program, delivering unparalleled long-range capabilities.www.lockheedmartin.com
US has been slow in the development of the tactical ballistic missiles. But the success of their HIMARS in Ukraine has been a wake up call.
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We do have a battery of ATACMS Block 1A with 300km range in stock with over a hundred missiles. But these missiles have shelf life. They were purchased just before 2000. If not replenished they will be no good now.
Just to add, it is understood that given USA has withdrew from intermediate range nuclear force treaty in 2019 PrSM will be able go farther. (Reportedly, up to 650km)
Also, next variant of PrSM could have Ramjet propulsion with 1000km range. Which I think is a brilliant idea that Türkiye should also explore after GOKHAN and AKBABA.
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In the same vein, M270s we have are near 30 year old now. There are only 12 of them and to my knowledge they were never raised to A1 level after 2005-6 update was started. Turkey originally wanted a much bigger fleet and was also interested in joint development with US. I believe we even wanted ToT for ATACMS in 90s, but this didn't happen. So we went the local and Chinese route with Toros and then Sakarya. Are the M270s now even active? When was the last time you saw one? I don't remember seeing one in a parade or an exercise for years.
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You should open your first thread on the forum,why not start with the one dedicated to ''Small Aerial Drones''?
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I am looking forward to seeing our institutes to have copied.
Direct fire and point detonating/delayed ammunition make the vehicle mini tank.
120mm mortar round has 2kg explosive.
With laser guidance you could destroy IFV Even damage MBT!!
Direct fire and point detonating/delayed ammunition make the vehicle mini tank.
120mm mortar round has 2kg explosive.
With laser guidance you could destroy IFV Even damage MBT!!
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Gurcan Okumus left Sage :/
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