TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[BalkanTurk90]

Atmaca test fire with a KTJ-3200. This will be a busy week for us

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766862856010473616

And oh my godness, it has a new BMC Tuğra 8x8 as TEL!!! Old Barbaros tests were made on Roketsan's Kamaz truck. This could only mean Barbaros is maturing for induction into service...

Didnt they test this before and tj 3200 was in mass production ? or i am mixing with SOM test ?

 

[BalkanTurk90]

What's the difference between Atmaca and Kara Atmaca?

As i know kara is land lunched and is heavier and needs ktj 3700 bigger engine , it has bigger warhead

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Atmaca is the Harpoon equivalent we have for naval vessels with an RF seeker.

Atmaca on the Barbaros Coastal Defence System(video above) is the land based Atmaca missile to be used for coastal defence duties mostly against naval targets. and will also be delivered to navy.

Kara Atmaca is a bigger, longer and heavier Atmaca with an IIR seeker that will be delivered to the land forces. It's a ground launched cruise missile.

So this test is for Atmaca that is in warships but for securitu they test it from land ?!
This is not kara Atmaca ,right?

 

[Baryshx]

According to this news, the Kara Atmaca engine KTJ-3700 should have been delivered. Could there be a launch this month?

KARA ATMACA Füzesinin motoru KTJ-3700'de ilk teslimat

Kale Arge, KARA ATMACA Seyir Füzesi'nde kullanılacak KTJ-3700 Turbojet Motoru'nun ilk teslimatını birkaç gün içerisinde gerçekleştirecek.

www.savunmasanayist.com

 

[Sanchez]

Didnt they test this before and tj 3200 was in mass production ? or i am mixing with SOM test ?

Not to my knowledge, no.

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So this test is for Atmaca that is in warships but for securitu they test it from land ?!
This is not kara Atmaca ,right?

I think this is Barbaros CMDS. If it was just a ground launched test, they could use the Kamaz test truck they have.

 

[TheInsider]

Barbaros CMDS will consist of Atmaca RF, Atmaca IIR and Çakır missiles.
Kara(land) Atmaca is the bigger variant of Atmaca IIR with a longer range (500km). It will be delivered to land forces.
Kara Atmaca weighs 890kg while the Atmaca antiship missile weighs 750kg. Kara Atmaca carries a 250kg warhead, Atmaca antiship missile carries a 220kg warhead. Kara Atmaca will use the KTJ-3700 engine, similar to the KTJ-3200 in size and weight.

 

[Heartbang]

Barbaros CMDS will consist of Atmaca RF, Atmaca IIR and Çakır missiles.
Kara(land) Atmaca is the bigger variant of Atmaca IIR with a longer range (500km). It will be delivered to land forces.
Kara Atmaca weighs 890kg while the Atmaca antiship missile weighs 750kg. Kara Atmaca carries a 250kg warhead, Atmaca antiship missile carries a 220kg warhead. Kara Atmaca will use the KTJ-3700 engine, similar to the KTJ-3200 in size and weight.

Call me pedantic if you'd like but I think these missiles need more stealth.

 

[uçuyorum]

Call me pedantic if you'd like but I think these missiles need more stealth.

I think gezgin will fit that role

 

[Heartbang]

I think gezgin will fit that role

In this shoot-a-cruise-missile-with-manpads world of ours, it better be.

Wouldn't hurt to have stealth anti-ship missiles as well. Modern ship radars detect submarine periscopes from 30 km's!

 

[TheInsider]

Call me pedantic if you'd like but I think these missiles need more stealth.

I agree.

 

[boredaf]

In this shoot-a-cruise-missile-with-manpads world of ours, it better be.

Wouldn't hurt to have stealth anti-ship missiles as well. Modern ship radars detect submarine periscopes from 30 km's!

Show me one ground launched anti-ship missile that is being produced right now that has a lower rcs, they are all more or less the same design.

 

[Afif]

Show me one ground launched anti-ship missile that is being produced right now that has a lower rcs, they are all more or less the same design.

New Type-12 surface to ship missile has LRASM like LO feature.

Also, NSM seems to be more stealthly than Harpoon. (similar to SOM)

And then there is Sea breaker that has entered mass production after receiving contract.

 

[boredaf]

New Type-12 surface to ship missile has LRASM like LO feature.

Also, NSM seems to be more stealthly than Harpoon. (similar to SOM)

And then there is Sea breaker that has entered mass production after receiving contract.

Upgraded Type-12 is still in development, and Atmaca is also stealthier than Harpoon but I didn't know Sea Breaker went into serial production, that's the only one I'll concede.

 

[Heartbang]

Show me one ground launched anti-ship missile that is being produced right now that has a lower rcs, they are all more or less the same design.

Ground-launched NSM.

 

[zio]

Recent Published video of atmaca shows that engine ignition of ktj 3200 is abit delayed and the missile lose altitute,I hopei it does not make a problem

 

[akrepon]

Recent Published video of atmaca shows that engine ignition of ktj 3200 is abit delayed and the missile lose altitute,I hopei it does not make a problem

Where did you see it?

 

[Afif]

I don't get the stealth preaching in here for anti ship missiles. They skim the sea, which is the main way to defeat ship radars as they cant look down beyond the horizon. By the time a missile is in position to be seen by radar it's close enough that no amount of stealth is gonna hide you from those powerful sensors.

That is actually true. But it helps in high-high-low flight profiles, as well as to avoid detection at ranges by enemy airborne assets.

 

[zio]

Where did you see it?

no ignition start altough time is passed and missile lost altitute

 

[Quasar]

Who wants to bet that we are also going to get an Hava Atmaca

No need to bet! air launched was stated but only once (Çakır was not announced by then) So not sure if it was Çakır or something else.

 

[zio]

Roketsan says ship,land,submarine for the platform of Atmaca missile.