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Germany is thinking about a “nuclear club”

The German government began to think about acquiring
nuclear weapons. This possibility began to be considered in connection with the increased chances of Donald Trump returning to the White House.

At the moment, two scenarios are in the lead - signing security guarantees with Great Britain and France or purchasing about a thousand nuclear warheads from the United States in order to become a nuclear power. Experts consider the first option to be more realistic.

German politicians and opinion leaders insist that Germany needs to ensure national security without being tied to the United States.

The Russian Kommersant writes about this.
(I should note that I do not trust Russian sources. But...)

In my opinion (this is not just my opinion), it is time for Turkey not only to think in this sense, but also to act, despite the possible negative reaction of some countries. Completely different times are coming in the world.
 
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Germany is thinking about a “nuclear club”

The German government began to think about acquiring
nuclear weapons. This possibility began to be considered in connection with the increased chances of Donald Trump returning to the White House.

At the moment, two scenarios are in the lead - signing security guarantees with Great Britain and France or purchasing about a thousand nuclear warheads from the United States in order to become a nuclear power. Experts consider the first option to be more realistic.

German politicians and opinion leaders insist that Germany needs to ensure national security without being tied to the United States.

The Russian Kommersant writes about this.
(I should note that I do not trust Russian sources. But...)

In my opinion (this is not just my opinion), it is time for Turkey not only to think in this sense, but also to act, despite the possible negative reaction of some countries. Completely different times are coming in the world.
It's a disgrace if Turkiye still doesn't have a nuclear bomb. All this friendship and military co-operation with Pakistan. In our country, where there are specialised and educated people in the nuclear field, there should have been now. It does not necessarily have to be produced in Turkiye. It can be produced in Pakistan.

Edit: Also, there is in Israel. What will happen tomorrow when Iran conducts a nuclear test? Those who play Sunnism in Turkiye will watch in jealousy and fear. The state mind should have already started and even finished its work before it came to this point.
 
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Germany is thinking about a “nuclear club”

The German government began to think about acquiring
nuclear weapons. This possibility began to be considered in connection with the increased chances of Donald Trump returning to the White House.

At the moment, two scenarios are in the lead - signing security guarantees with Great Britain and France or purchasing about a thousand nuclear warheads from the United States in order to become a nuclear power. Experts consider the first option to be more realistic.

German politicians and opinion leaders insist that Germany needs to ensure national security without being tied to the United States.

The Russian Kommersant writes about this.
(I should note that I do not trust Russian sources. But...)

In my opinion (this is not just my opinion), it is time for Turkey not only to think in this sense, but also to act, despite the possible negative reaction of some countries. Completely different times are coming in the world.

Offtopic, but my 2cents:

1. Komersant source
2. Public in Germany is 100% against nukes, Germany has even closed down perfectly fine nuclear power plants
3. NATO nuclear umbrella
 

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Offtopic, but my 2cents:

1. Komersant source
2. Public in Germany is 100% against nukes, Germany has even closed down perfectly fine nuclear power plants
3. NATO nuclear umbrella
TBH, NATO nuclear umbrella is a joke and wouldn't work in real life. Can you imagine the US, France or England nuking Russia because they nuked a non Nuke possessing Country. Hell no...
 

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TBH, NATO nuclear umbrella is a joke and wouldn't work in real life. Can you imagine the US, France or England nuking Russia because they nuked a non Nuke possessing Country. Hell no...
Jupiters in Turkey(under Turkish control but with US keeping warhead keys) was enough to make Soviets anxious and it led to the Cuban Missile Crisis and possible nuclear war. It of course ended with US removing the missiles with Soviets deescalating. But in the end US still kept its promise and sent B61s instead.

Threat it created worked to a degree and that's the NATO guarantee. If you're in NATO, you're under American nuclear umbrella, against Russia. We'll see if Putin aims to test that theory.
 

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Jupiters in Turkey(under Turkish control but with US keeping warhead keys) was enough to make Soviets anxious and it led to the Cuban Missile Crisis and possible nuclear war. It of course ended with US removing the missiles with Soviets deescalating. But in the end US still kept its promise and sent B61s instead.

Threat it created worked to a degree and that's the NATO guarantee. If you're in NATO, you're under American nuclear umbrella. We'll see if Putin aims to test that theory.

He better not, deterrence credibility of superpowers relies on their ability and willingness to not back down. And one thing everybody knows for (almost) certainty, United States won't back down. That is what gives NATO's nuclear umbrella credibility.
 

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He better not, deterrence credibility of superpowers relies on their ability and willingness to not back down. And one thing everybody knows for (almost) certainty, United States won't back down. That is what gives NATO's nuclear umbrella credibility.
So far, they did. Not sure about the next 20 years tbh.
 

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Those nukes, and NATO, are a major reason for our (somewhat) stability and prosperity. And that's a fact.
 

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I still prefer Türkiye to have their own Nukes instead of relying on a Country that supports our enemies in front of our eyes...

Obviously having your own is better. But still, in a theoretical nuclear war, handling a couple of launch sites in Turkey would be easier for a nuclear power than having to beat the US/NATO with the nuclear triad and countless launch sites.
 

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Common diplomatic courtesy. Which doesn't oblige you to anything. Just a couple of weeks ago they also congratulated us. Almost on the day of the visit of the Greek Minister of Defense to Yerevan.
There is no need to look for any hidden intentions in congratulations and statements addressed to other countries.
If, relatively speaking, something happens in Canakkale (we write “Canaggala”), we'll gett there. Then the Greeks will know that we are not only polite :ROFLMAO:
Armenians recently became convinced of this:LOL:
 

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Same thing happened some years back when China didn't Veto Iran sanctions and followed through on them. They even were wary of the sanctions after Trump exited JCPOA, which were imposed outside of Security Council mechanisms, but the Chinese still erred on the side of caution. Shows what the Chinese analysis on the geopolitical front is, despite some signals to the contrary pointing to Xi's personal ambitions. Several appointments show those have gone through the self-correction process after the underwhelming performance of the past couple of years.

"lie low, hide your capabilities and bide your time". said Deng Xiaoping regarding the overarching strategy of the Chinese state; still viable and it requires correct analysis of your adversaries capabilities to not repeat another emotional and hasty episode like the Boxer rebellion. Doesn't mean they are acting timid; they still do a lot of business and


But they know they can't just be reckless and have to tread a tightrope. They understand the importance of managing sentiments in the market.
 
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