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Also Bayraktar tbII uses uses Wescam-CATS some published videos has shown different cross-hairs, in ANKA some uses imported Starfire, Wescam or Aselsan's, some has replaced with locally made, some still operates with foreign E/O.
It is not truly known which system is installed in what, or in which version but those parts are easily sold without laser ranging-targeting units. There were rumors that Bayraktar (Authorized regional service of Wescam) purchases the basic variant of the E/O and upgrades it in their facilities for laser targeting. yes Bayraktar is still authorized service and maintenance center of Wescam in the region.
Wescam was banned earlier in Syrian operations, and released a few months later, the same will happen now they won't miss the chance of exports.

My friend who is part of the defense attachee in Istanbul had mentioned the negotiation for Bayraktar TB2 is had move up on the next stage.
 

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Alhamdulillah, though we lost a plane but the pilots to survive is a greater news.
Planes cost nothing compared to pilots, probably one of them was instructor which makes her even more valuable, in terms of money and time needed to replace him.

Thanks @JATOSINT for correction.
 
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Bayraktar is actually using Canadian cam system (and various other systems from various other countries), although now that they basically being embargoed, they are trying to use indigenous system.

That being said, I'd say we follow their way. Use systems made in other country, while keep developing our own.

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Only thing what correct is engine and flir. Rest of the system is self made, and if you think you can design subsystems like that goodluck :LOL: . Our way is R&D, you will see that nobody will give you technology. With the money you spend on your defence you will never be able come that level. You have to spend billions.
 

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Given that our F-16 eMLUs are getting new paint jobs and the Dassault Rafale deal closer to signing, should our new warbirds get a camo scheme similar (with the roundels and stuff replaced ofc) to the above so as to make it consistent with the F-16s?
 

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Given that our F-16 eMLUs are getting new paint jobs and the Dassault Rafale deal closer to signing, should our new warbirds get a camo scheme similar (with the roundels and stuff replaced ofc) to the above so as to make it consistent with the F-16s?

We will get two species of European delta fighter, US will get something else, AEW and MPA like P8A friend?
 

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We will get two species of European delta fighter, US will get something else, AEW and MPA like P8A friend?
Was that "insider info"? I'm extremely confident though that the US will get a piece of big ticket article (whatever that may) one way or another
 

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Was that "insider info"? I'm extremely confident though that the US will get a piece of big ticket article (whatever that may) one way or another

Wedgetail and Poseidon alone will cost an arm and legs, they are very expensive stuff to begin with.
 

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so ? will we ditch sukhoi fleet in the end or keeping it ?

No, they are still useful for ground attack roles, that's why the Air Force trying to reverse engineering the S8 rocket
 

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I really hope Kemenhan, TNI-AU, PT.DI know what they are doing. Introducing 2 new platform at the same time is not an easy task to begin with. :unsure:
 

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I really hope Kemenhan, TNI-AU, PT.DI know what they are doing. Introducing 2 new platform at the same time is not an easy task to begin with. :unsure:

Lol, that's Typhoon is on behalf of PT DI lobby, meanwhile they will get some projects from Rafale deals
 

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I really hope Kemenhan, TNI-AU, PT.DI know what they are doing. Introducing 2 new platform at the same time is not an easy task to begin with. :unsure:
Is it possible that typhoon deal will be cancelled and only rafales instead?
 

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Is it possible that typhoon deal will be cancelled and only rafales instead?
Negotiation for both already in advance state, somerhing that can block them only advance fighter from US. But it seems they don't give it.

Alright then,
I think I have to say goodbye to my mimpi tak sampai: F16v, F15ex, FA18 SH, and F35.😢😤

Oh... and su35 too🙃
 

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Negotiation for both already in advance state, somerhing that can block them only advance fighter from US. But it seems they don't give it.

Alright then,
I think I have to say goodbye to my mimpi tak sampai: F16v, F15ex, FA18 SH, and F35.😢😤

Oh... and su35 too🙃

Su 35? They are not cancelled yet
 

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Su 35? They are not cancelled yet
We don’t buy new US fighter, How we can negotiate for waiver?

And 36 rafale plus 15 typhoon already fill all our slot for new fighter.
 

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We don’t buy new US fighter, How we can negotiate for waiver?

And 36 rafale plus 15 typhoon already fill all our slot for new fighter.

As i said before, US trying to get AEW/C and Poseidon deal, that's alone will cost us an arm and legs. Not to mention other "recehan" the likes of Blackhawk and stuff...
 

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