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[contricusc]

China and india are spamming hydropower, solar and nuclear projects and europe being retards they are fumbling around with their ego.

The reality is that the only big region that has reduced its emmissions in the last 30 years is Europe. Also, the EU has increased its renewable power generation at a very fast pace in the last two years, in order to replace the gas imported from Russia. The EU is the global leader when it comes to renewable energy as a share of its energy mix, and it is slowly phasing out coal, while China and India keep increasing their coal capacity.

Russia for all its short comings is not a preachy bastard who tells the world "how they are saving the world" every day.

Yes, they are just bombing their neighbors and killing people, while trying to annex territories. I gues preaching about saving the world is much worse than invading a country in your opinion.

 

[Packetlight]

Yes, you are right about that. Both countries made big progress in this regard in the last 20 years. Maybe they should do the same when it comes to coal-powered energy, and they will start to move to a more sustainable path going forward.

But the African problem remains and the global population is still growing, so the per-capita argument doesn’t stand because the current world population is too large to have a per-capita energy consumption equivalent of developed countries.

Increasing the global per-capita consumption of energy should come only at the same time with a decreae in population and a qualitative increase in the energy mix. Right now, developing nations are increasing coal energy at unsustainable levels, and this should be addreessed.

"The African problem" ???????

What is the African problem?

 

[contricusc]

"The African problem" ???????

What is the African problem?

The excessive birth rate and population growth. While all other regions of the world have a relatively stable population (some are still slowly growing, while some are even decreasing), Africa continues to grow its population at an unsustainable rate.

 

[Jammer]

The reality is that the only big region that has reduced its emmissions in the last 30 years is Europe. Also, the EU has increased its renewable power generation at a very fast pace in the last two years, in order to replace the gas imported from Russia. The EU is the global leader when it comes to renewable energy as a share of its energy mix, and it is slowly phasing out coal, while China and India keep increasing their coal capacity

I think you meant to say the only big region where people are among the most richest in per capita terms by achieving industrialisation by utilising fossil fuels to the max and now due to their activism has thrown all of it down the drain for green intiatives which has made the largest economy in the EU being germany now stagnating and even in a possible recession and UK unable to even produce its own steel. Only Europeans would boast about their stupidity. The rest of thr world however isn't led on the orders of blue haired whales and knows the place of cheap and quick means of electricity for achieving their industrialization.

Yes, they are just bombing their neighbors and killing people, while trying to annex territories. I gues preaching about saving the world is much worse than invading a country in your opinion

Big words coming from a group of guys who haven't invaded countries for some imaginary reasons killing scores of people and then leaving a big mess that results in total anarchy in those regions.

 

[contricusc]

The rest of thr world however isn't led on the orders of blue haired whales and knows the place of cheap and quick means of electricity for achieving their industrialization.

I don’t deny the usefulness of fossil fuels when it comes to obtaining quick, stable and cheap energy. From a cost perspective, they are the best source of energy, but the excessive burning of fossil fuels at a global level will have negative consequences for the whole world in the long term.

If every country wants to achieve a high level of industrialization by burning coal, than global emissions will continue to raise for a very long time, and accumulate in the atmosphere. This is now a known fact, and this is why “blue haired whales” are trying to push the world in a direction where it reduces the amount of fossil fuel it burns.

While Europe is paying the price of using more expensive renewable energy instead of simply burning coal, in the form of higher cost of energy and lower competitiveness of energy-intensive industries, it is moving on a sustainable direction. The problem is with the rest of the world that continues to burn coal just because it is a little cheaper.

This is why I said at the begining that Europeans should not court countries like India just for the sake of countering China, because in the end India and China are acting in the exact same way.

In order for the push to renewables to succeed, the whole world needs to cut down on fossil fuels use, and countries like India that continue to build coal power generation are sabotaging this effort.

 

[Packetlight]

The excessive birth rate and population growth. While all other regions of the world have a relatively stable population (some are still slowly growing, while some are even decreasing), Africa continues to grow its population at an unsustainable rate.

Funny, so just because a bunch of rich European countries decide to stop or reduce its population growth, Africa should suddenly stop giving birth🫤🫤 is that what you are saying?

On what ground are you to define how we grow our population?

 

[Costin1984]

Funny, so just because a bunch of rich European countries decide to stop or reduce its population growth, Africa should suddenly stop giving birth🫤🫤 is that what you are saying?

On what ground are you to define how we grow our population?

Because you can't even feed or provide basic necessities for the people you have now,let alone future, growing numbers?

 

[Packetlight]

Because you can't even feed or provide basic necessities for the people you have now,let alone future, growing numbers?

Rubbish!
Coming from someone who have never set foot in Africa. Too much BBC and CNN makes you think everyone in Africa is poor and hungry.

 

[Costin1984]

Rubbish!
Coming from someone who have never set foot in Africa. Too much BBC and CNN makes you think everyone in Africa is poor and hungry.

I never said that , however ,denying that Africa's population outstretches its current resources is undeniable.

 

[contricusc]

On what ground are you to define how we grow our population?

First of all, you should notice that the countries with high population growth are generally the poorest countries. Even in Africa, the wealthier countries have a normal birth rate (Seychelles, South Africa or Morocco), while the highest birth rates are in the poorest countries (Niger, Chad, DR Congo, Somalia, CAR, Mali or Angola).

So the countries growing the fastest are the ones having difficulties to provide even for their current population.

Since we were talking about global emissions and their impact on the climate, one point of contention is about emissions per capita, and the idea that poor countries should be allowed to increase the use of coal and other fossil fuels despite harming everyone, because they have the right to be industrialized as well. The problem is, the global population is already too high, and if everyone would be as energy intensive as people in developed countries, the global emissions would skyrocket and the climate would be getting hotter at a dangerosly high rate. This is why population growth needs to stop, and population decline is actually a positive thing.

As a side thought, there is growing angst among people in developed countries because there is a big influx of illegal immigrants coming from Africa to get out of poverty. They represent a burden on the receiving countries, and a growing population in the poorest countries is a guarantee that such migration will continue in the foreseeable future.

Why can’t some African countries get in line with the rest of the world and have XXI century brith rates? The mortality rate has been greatly reduced, so they should stop breeding like in the XIV century.