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Why testing another carbine since There is MPT55? Same platform.
Companies like Sarsilmaz, Kale and Mertsav are delivering more customization options and probably better performance.

For a SOF it is normal to test different platforms. Mertsav is still in testing phase and they went with Sarsilmaz in 11" version as a bigger purchase. They will probably fill the 7" and 14.5" with Mertsav.
Never heard them. Are they any good?
So far the opinions are positive. They also delivered 5.56 LMG to POH.
 

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Canik outs two new pistols in the micro compact class which are narrow in width and sized to be conceal carried easily.

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Canik went crazy. This micro compact pistol takes ordinary magazines from standart models. They made very thin chasis and body. Great 👍🏻
Their previous models were all intended for military and police therefore they were not carry friendly. They were thick and were meant for open carry mostly. These models starting with the first MC9 are thin with 28.5 mm width as opposed to 36-38mm and easy are to carry inside the waist band. This marks the beginning of Canik competing with Glock head on. You can modify these models to your liking and build the dream gun for yourself. Or rather for American gun owners as they have much more freedom to do modifications while our guns for the most part must be used as they come from the manufacturers, They should offer more factory mods as the manufacturers.

Tactical versions of these pistols with a longer barrel and some fancy add ons can make these guns irresistible to buy.
 
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More on the new Caniks, all gun channels released their first shot reviews, its a joy seeing them.

 
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It is good that we have multiple firms capable of producing assault rifles and light machine guns. God forbid but these are among the first things you need to ready everyone for a defense when your country faces an all-out war
 

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Micro Bullpup Rifles: A Necessity for the Turkish Security Forces

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1. Advantages of Bullpup Rifles:


  • Short Length: Their shorter length compared to classic rifles increases maneuverability in confined spaces. This feature provides a significant advantage in urban warfare, buildings, and vehicles.
  • Weight Distribution: The center of gravity is closer to the shooter's body, improving carrying and maneuverability. This reduces fatigue during prolonged operations.
  • Better Ergonomics: In bullpup rifles, the trigger mechanism is located behind the magazine. This allows the shooter to aim and fire more comfortably.
  • Less Recoil: Bullpup rifles have a longer barrel length, resulting in less recoil. This allows the shooter to fire faster and more accurately.
2. Advantages of the Desert Tech Wolverine Micron Model:

  • Modular Design: The Wolverine Micron is designed to be compatible with different barrel lengths, magazine capacities, and optical systems. This allows for customization for different missions.
  • High Accuracy: The Wolverine Micron is a high-precision rifle. It offers the ability to hit targets accurately even at long distances.
3. Suitability for the Turkish Security Forces:

  • Special Operations Units: Micro bullpup rifles are ideal for special operations units operating in confined spaces.
  • Paratroopers: Their short length and light weight make them ideal for paratroopers.
  • Helicopter, Aircraft, and Ship Personnel: Micro bullpup rifles provide a significant advantage for personnel operating in limited spaces.
  • Intelligence and Embassy Protection Personnel: Ideal for covert operations and protection missions.
4. Deficiencies of Current Weapon Systems:

  • 9mm and 5.7mm Caliber Submachine Guns: These weapons lack the capacity to use more powerful ammunition. Additionally, their length can increase when a suppressor is attached.
5. Advantages Provided by the Micro Bullpup Rifle:

  • More Powerful Ammunition: Powerful ammunition such as 5.56mm, 7.62x39mm, and 7.62x54mm provides more effective firepower.
  • Compact Size: Even with a suppressor attached, the length does not increase. This enhances maneuverability in confined spaces.
6. Relationship with MPT76 and MPT55:

  • The micro bullpup rifle does not replace the MPT76 and MPT55. This rifle is designed to meet a different need.
7. Export Potential:

  • The micro bullpup rifle will be in high demand in civilian and military markets worldwide. This presents a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.
Conclusion:

The micro bullpup rifle is an ideal weapon system to meet the needs of the Turkish security forces. I believe this rifle will enhance the operational capabilities of the Turkish security forces and create a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.



 
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The problems with bullpups that i know: triggers linking mechanism usually gives a bad experience because it is not like a native bullpup, its just an old school mechanism like ak or ar being carried backward and stock removed sort of weirdness. The other problem is often difficulty of accessing the mechanism when it jams etc. Also the ejection becomes problematic, need a mechanism to prevent cases from hitting the wrong places. Reloading is less straightforward. But all that being said, the ability to have 16 or 20 inch barrels in such a short overall length is a valuable asset.
 

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The problems with bullpups that i know: triggers linking mechanism usually gives a bad experience because it is not like a native bullpup, its just an old school mechanism like ak or ar being carried backward and stock removed sort of weirdness. The other problem is often difficulty of accessing the mechanism when it jams etc. Also the ejection becomes problematic, need a mechanism to prevent cases from hitting the wrong places. Reloading is less straightforward. But all that being said, the ability to have 16 or 20 inch barrels in such a short overall length is a valuable asset.
Desert tech totally solved trigger and ejection problems. They have refined the gun, wolverine is the third gen of their bullpup platform. They even offer full auto version.

 
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Micro Bullpup Rifles: A Necessity for the Turkish Security Forces

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1. Advantages of Bullpup Rifles:


  • Short Length: Their shorter length compared to classic rifles increases maneuverability in confined spaces. This feature provides a significant advantage in urban warfare, buildings, and vehicles.
  • Weight Distribution: The center of gravity is closer to the shooter's body, improving carrying and maneuverability. This reduces fatigue during prolonged operations.
  • Better Ergonomics: In bullpup rifles, the trigger mechanism is located behind the magazine. This allows the shooter to aim and fire more comfortably.
  • Less Recoil: Bullpup rifles have a longer barrel length, resulting in less recoil. This allows the shooter to fire faster and more accurately.
2. Advantages of the Desert Tech Wolverine Micron Model:

  • Modular Design: The Wolverine Micron is designed to be compatible with different barrel lengths, magazine capacities, and optical systems. This allows for customization for different missions.
  • High Accuracy: The Wolverine Micron is a high-precision rifle. It offers the ability to hit targets accurately even at long distances.
3. Suitability for the Turkish Security Forces:

  • Special Operations Units: Micro bullpup rifles are ideal for special operations units operating in confined spaces.
  • Paratroopers: Their short length and light weight make them ideal for paratroopers.
  • Helicopter, Aircraft, and Ship Personnel: Micro bullpup rifles provide a significant advantage for personnel operating in limited spaces.
  • Intelligence and Embassy Protection Personnel: Ideal for covert operations and protection missions.
4. Deficiencies of Current Weapon Systems:

  • 9mm and 5.7mm Caliber Submachine Guns: These weapons lack the capacity to use more powerful ammunition. Additionally, their length can increase when a suppressor is attached.
5. Advantages Provided by the Micro Bullpup Rifle:

  • More Powerful Ammunition: Powerful ammunition such as 5.56mm, 7.62x39mm, and 7.62x54mm provides more effective firepower.
  • Compact Size: Even with a suppressor attached, the length does not increase. This enhances maneuverability in confined spaces.
6. Relationship with MPT76 and MPT55:

  • The micro bullpup rifle does not replace the MPT76 and MPT55. This rifle is designed to meet a different need.
7. Export Potential:

  • The micro bullpup rifle will be in high demand in civilian and military markets worldwide. This presents a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.
Conclusion:

The micro bullpup rifle is an ideal weapon system to meet the needs of the Turkish security forces. I believe this rifle will enhance the operational capabilities of the Turkish security forces and create a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.



Even the French and the Brits phased them out,while Austrians are planning to do so in close future.Russians,Americans and Chinese never went further than prototypes...decades ago.There is a reason for that.
 

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Micro Bullpup Rifles: A Necessity for the Turkish Security Forces

View attachment 71280

1. Advantages of Bullpup Rifles:


  • Short Length: Their shorter length compared to classic rifles increases maneuverability in confined spaces. This feature provides a significant advantage in urban warfare, buildings, and vehicles.
  • Weight Distribution: The center of gravity is closer to the shooter's body, improving carrying and maneuverability. This reduces fatigue during prolonged operations.
  • Better Ergonomics: In bullpup rifles, the trigger mechanism is located behind the magazine. This allows the shooter to aim and fire more comfortably.
  • Less Recoil: Bullpup rifles have a longer barrel length, resulting in less recoil. This allows the shooter to fire faster and more accurately.
2. Advantages of the Desert Tech Wolverine Micron Model:

  • Modular Design: The Wolverine Micron is designed to be compatible with different barrel lengths, magazine capacities, and optical systems. This allows for customization for different missions.
  • High Accuracy: The Wolverine Micron is a high-precision rifle. It offers the ability to hit targets accurately even at long distances.
3. Suitability for the Turkish Security Forces:

  • Special Operations Units: Micro bullpup rifles are ideal for special operations units operating in confined spaces.
  • Paratroopers: Their short length and light weight make them ideal for paratroopers.
  • Helicopter, Aircraft, and Ship Personnel: Micro bullpup rifles provide a significant advantage for personnel operating in limited spaces.
  • Intelligence and Embassy Protection Personnel: Ideal for covert operations and protection missions.
4. Deficiencies of Current Weapon Systems:

  • 9mm and 5.7mm Caliber Submachine Guns: These weapons lack the capacity to use more powerful ammunition. Additionally, their length can increase when a suppressor is attached.
5. Advantages Provided by the Micro Bullpup Rifle:

  • More Powerful Ammunition: Powerful ammunition such as 5.56mm, 7.62x39mm, and 7.62x54mm provides more effective firepower.
  • Compact Size: Even with a suppressor attached, the length does not increase. This enhances maneuverability in confined spaces.
6. Relationship with MPT76 and MPT55:

  • The micro bullpup rifle does not replace the MPT76 and MPT55. This rifle is designed to meet a different need.
7. Export Potential:

  • The micro bullpup rifle will be in high demand in civilian and military markets worldwide. This presents a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.
Conclusion:

The micro bullpup rifle is an ideal weapon system to meet the needs of the Turkish security forces. I believe this rifle will enhance the operational capabilities of the Turkish security forces and create a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.



IWI Tar-21 is already in the inventory of the Special Forces Command and not only that, but even the STAR-21 which is a designated marksman variant is in the inventory. We also got a FN P-90 in the inventory of the Gendarmerie. Both the TARs and the P90s are phased out by AR platforms tho.

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Micro Bullpup Rifles: A Necessity for the Turkish Security Forces

View attachment 71280

1. Advantages of Bullpup Rifles:


  • Short Length: Their shorter length compared to classic rifles increases maneuverability in confined spaces. This feature provides a significant advantage in urban warfare, buildings, and vehicles.
  • Weight Distribution: The center of gravity is closer to the shooter's body, improving carrying and maneuverability. This reduces fatigue during prolonged operations.
  • Better Ergonomics: In bullpup rifles, the trigger mechanism is located behind the magazine. This allows the shooter to aim and fire more comfortably.
  • Less Recoil: Bullpup rifles have a longer barrel length, resulting in less recoil. This allows the shooter to fire faster and more accurately.
2. Advantages of the Desert Tech Wolverine Micron Model:

  • Modular Design: The Wolverine Micron is designed to be compatible with different barrel lengths, magazine capacities, and optical systems. This allows for customization for different missions.
  • High Accuracy: The Wolverine Micron is a high-precision rifle. It offers the ability to hit targets accurately even at long distances.
3. Suitability for the Turkish Security Forces:

  • Special Operations Units: Micro bullpup rifles are ideal for special operations units operating in confined spaces.
  • Paratroopers: Their short length and light weight make them ideal for paratroopers.
  • Helicopter, Aircraft, and Ship Personnel: Micro bullpup rifles provide a significant advantage for personnel operating in limited spaces.
  • Intelligence and Embassy Protection Personnel: Ideal for covert operations and protection missions.
4. Deficiencies of Current Weapon Systems:

  • 9mm and 5.7mm Caliber Submachine Guns: These weapons lack the capacity to use more powerful ammunition. Additionally, their length can increase when a suppressor is attached.
5. Advantages Provided by the Micro Bullpup Rifle:

  • More Powerful Ammunition: Powerful ammunition such as 5.56mm, 7.62x39mm, and 7.62x54mm provides more effective firepower.
  • Compact Size: Even with a suppressor attached, the length does not increase. This enhances maneuverability in confined spaces.
6. Relationship with MPT76 and MPT55:

  • The micro bullpup rifle does not replace the MPT76 and MPT55. This rifle is designed to meet a different need.
7. Export Potential:

  • The micro bullpup rifle will be in high demand in civilian and military markets worldwide. This presents a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.
Conclusion:

The micro bullpup rifle is an ideal weapon system to meet the needs of the Turkish security forces. I believe this rifle will enhance the operational capabilities of the Turkish security forces and create a significant export opportunity for Turkey's defense industry.



Well i used the Steyr AUG (STG77) during conscription and also shot different rifles (AK Mk105, AR-15 and CZ Bren2) and i can tell you that the trigger of the AUG sucks in comparison to the other three, the recoil was also more snappy imo, ergonomics are good but if you’re taller it's kinda weird or when you have gear on like chest rigs etc. since you can't adjust the stock, balance was excellent no other rifle comes close, shooting in the prone is ok reloading it in this position is annoying.

Bullpups have their advanatges the biggest one is that a full sized rifle with 16" barrel is as short as a short barrel AR, good for personel in Tanks, Helicopters etc. Intelligence and other forces that need a compact rifle but for Special Forces the more modular AR plattform makes more sense.
 

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Well i used the Steyr AUG (STG77) during conscription and also shot different rifles (AK Mk105, AR-15 and CZ Bren2)
Oh my dear, you are cool. I am jealous 😇

But Desert Tech wolverine is known for accuracy. They really solved the trigger problem.
 
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Seems like MKE will soon present a new (high) precision rifle, in the caliber .408 Chey Tac.

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New Generation Sniper Rifle from MKE: MKE-408

Machinery and Chemical Industry (MKE) has introduced the MKE-408 Sniper Rifle, adding a new one to its innovative solutions in the defense industry.

Using 0.408 caliber (10.36 mm x 77) ammunition, the rifle stands out with its long range and high precision with an effective firing capacity of up to 2200 meters.

💢 Higher Range: Superior performance compared to NATO calibers with the ability to fire up to 2200 meters.
💢 Lightweight Design: Weighs only 9 kg compared to its 15 kg counterparts. Easy to carry, comfortable to use.
💢 High Accuracy: Improved barrel and mechanism for perfect accuracy even at long distances.

Combining reliability, precision and ease of transportation, the MKE-408 aims for success in the field under all conditions.

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Belt-fed shotgun could be very useful standard equipment on IFV against drones. At least I think there is potential if it's possible to create a semi /full automatic turret to it.

Mind you I'm thinking pellets and not the slugs.

Disadvantage would be the range 50-100m I imagine
 
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