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The awaited moment has come!

National Unmanned Soldier to the Depths of the Blue Homeland: #STMNETA

#MilliMĆ¼hendislik The work of our power, the first member of our Unmanned Autonomous Underwater family, STM NETA 300, will undertake the protection of the depths in #MaviVatan thanks to its modular and flexible design, high level of autonomy, and unique software! STM NETA's first operational mission will be the detection of mines.


I wonder if this project will turn into Turkey's version of the ghost shark submarine.
 

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Meanwhile we have seen STM's bid for the Mine Hunter Vessel, lost to Dearsan design;

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STM seems to have provisioned a hangar like structure behind the exhaust pipes to store both the USVs and UAVs, while the rear part seems elegant, the fore section and mast seems out of the date. The requirements are unclear but assuming that STM had some insider information, we may see similar adjustments on the Dearsan's design.
 

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Both. Please read the provided link.
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On the left, military variant has synthetic aperture sonar, while on the right, the commercial / scientific variant has a side scan sonar. Left one is also slightly larger in comparison to the right one, and doubting if this is the kamikaze version of it. Speaking intrinsically it should have a high performance propeller - motor to sustain higher speeds, and sprint at the last phase and does not need expensive side - scan synthetic aperture sonar.

24 hours at 5 knots at a single charge is a good endurance for an AUV - UUV.
 

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Am I right in assuming that smart buoys are not considered military equipment, and that's why we won't be seeing them in these fairs ?

So in a way we won't have companies competing to make the bestest and baddest smart buoy ?
 

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Meanwhile we have seen STM's bid for the Mine Hunter Vessel, lost to Dearsan design;

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STM seems to have provisioned a hangar like structure behind the exhaust pipes to store both the USVs and UAVs, while the rear part seems elegant, the fore section and mast seems out of the date. The requirements are unclear but assuming that STM had some insider information, we may see similar adjustments on the Dearsan's design.
I donā€™t know which one is which but at the risk of derailing the subject, I must say that the top one looks like a WW2 vessel. It looks like Cousteaā€™s Calypso tbh
 

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Most important part is AIP. Is there any update on where TĆ¼rkiye's companies are with AIP?
 
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MKEK's Denizhan 76/62mm National Naval Gun (NNG could be nice code btw) will be deployed on MÄ°LGEM Ä°stif class 9-10-11-12.

A Supply Agreement for 4 set of Denizhan 76/62mm National Naval Guns was signed between MKE and TAIS ā€“ OG and STM partnership.


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Was it confirmed before that this gun is also capable of air defence duties?
 

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Thanks mate, just saw that MKE mentioned it as anti-air as well, so I got curious. I wonder how capable it'll be in that role.
I don't know the exact figures for the gun or the type of the shell, but Super Rapid used to be considered as a limited but purposed CIWS and AD gun.

But with no matching to the SR's rate of fire and lack of programmable / fused shells, MKE 76mm will have a very limited capability in that purpose.
 

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I don't know the exact figures for the gun or the type of the shell, but Super Rapid used to be considered as a limited but purposed CIWS and AD gun.

But with no matching to the SR's rate of fire and lack of programmable / fused shells, MKE 76mm will have a very limited capability in that purpose.
Having clarified that point, it would be nice to know, if you would bring some light to the very fact that, why we are pursuing an inferior gun for our second batch of I-Class frigates. Would it not be more feasible to ask MKE to develop our ā€œSuper-Rapidā€ version?

You are correct in the fact that what makes the Italian Super Rapid come to itā€™s own are in fact, the Vulcano rounds with 40km range and the DART guided anti aircraft rounds.

Would one be correct in thinking that, for ā€œconventionalā€ use, there would be very little advantage in having a Super Rapid over the MKE version?
 

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