TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Lool]

Turkey doesn't need to be a friend of Israel or to take their side (or any other side) in this big dirty game. All Turkey needs to do to win... is just to be neutral not to play their games at all.

Leave Israelis, Arabs and Iranians to kill each other as much as they want and just improve your economy, military, internal security and diplomacy while they are wasting their resources on endless conflicts. The moment you enter the Middle Eastern swamp you are already starting to lose.

I completely agree with the notion that Turkey remians neutral. However, always remember that as long as Turkey is growing militarily and industrialy to a point that Israel cant feel safe either directly or indirectly, Israel will never leave Turkey unless it is pummeled to the ground

They can do anything from sanctions, terrorism, to even fueling rebellions. We already saw ISIS and the PKK as prime examples of what the zionists can do

 

[Zoth]

Official invitation?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856620389457174736

Too early to believe anything since i couldn't find anything else on this, but if it's real, i personally believe it's a good move for us.

 

[Deliorman]

Goodluck staying Neutral with Israel when Israeli Lobby keeps pushing anti Turkish sentiments together with Greek lobby and puts us in a really difficult situation both in Syria, Iraq, Cyprus or in Eastern Mediterranean in general.

Read if you want to learn more:

Why Israel Is Cheering On Iraqi Kurds' Push for Independence

A discussion on how the relationship has evolved to the point where Israel was the only regional government encouraging rather than decrying the KRG referendum.

www.washingtoninstitute.org

Project MUSE - Israel and the Kurds: A Pragmatic Relationship in Middle Eastern Politics

muse.jhu.edu

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-escalating-tensions-a-three-way-fight-between-turkey-iran-and-israel/

Basically, Israel's Alliance of Minorities strategy is directly against us in both Syria and Iraq, you can't just leave Israel alone, as much as i don't like Iran and Israel, if we leave and watch Iran getting destroyed, we are the next one after them.

You are proving my point.

Yes, Israel and the Jewish lobby is actively working against Turkey but let's not forget who started this "Cold war"- it was Erdogan with his ambitions to be a Muslim leader and protector of Palestinians who provoked it (Davos, Mavi Marmara and etc). Out of nowhere he created problems and helped old ones to become even bigger.

I can write more and more but don't really want to waste time for stuff that we have discussed 1000 times before.

 

[Heartbang]

Not sure about the history of the author

The author is a bloody mankurt.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853798383950942642

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856305218230587480

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853495049364865176

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1852408632148668819

 

[Rooxbar]

Goodluck staying Neutral with Israel when Israeli Lobby keeps pushing anti Turkish sentiments together with Greek lobby and puts us in a really difficult situation both in Syria, Iraq, Cyprus or in Eastern Mediterranean in general.

Read if you want to learn more:

Why Israel Is Cheering On Iraqi Kurds' Push for Independence

A discussion on how the relationship has evolved to the point where Israel was the only regional government encouraging rather than decrying the KRG referendum.

www.washingtoninstitute.org

Project MUSE - Israel and the Kurds: A Pragmatic Relationship in Middle Eastern Politics

muse.jhu.edu

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-escalating-tensions-a-three-way-fight-between-turkey-iran-and-israel/

Basically, Israel's Alliance of Minorities strategy is directly against us in both Syria and Iraq, you can't just leave Israel alone, as much as i don't like Iran and Israel, if we leave and watch Iran getting destroyed, we are the next one after them.

We started that; they're only responding. Israel's plans and ambitions for domination in the region are old and their strategy of alliance of periphery has always been a national security risk for us showcased by the fact that their demands to connect with Northern Iraqi Kurds through us was denied by MIT in the 70s and they had to cooperate with the Shah of Iran in that regard.

But this minimal fight was waged in the intelligence front in implicit ways behind the scene without making it into an open hostility. So much so that we had very high-level intelligence cooperation with Israel on most other matters and they considered us a friend as a NATO member and an ally of their masters in U.S. and the Jewish billionaires there; the stipulation that they were using that to further their interests is true but also obvious. Another objection that they would oppose us the second we stood against their interests is also only natural.

This admin's anti-Israeli outlook is purely ideological and predates any hostile action by Israel. Even at times when our relations with U.S. was strained, it was Israelis who tried to mend them, and their lobbies helped us block recognition of Armenian genocide and many other such cases exist including defense technology exchanges in the 90s.

 

[Iskander]

The author is a bloody mankurt.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853798383950942642

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856305218230587480

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853495049364865176

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1852408632148668819

There are more such, so to speak, experts in America and in the West in general than there are stray dogs on the streets. And "National Interest" became a mouthpiece for anti-Turkish propaganda.
Its owner (or chief editor) Dmitry Says has long been working for Russia. He ran away from American justice in time and now hosts the political show "Big Game" in Moscow and serves the “national interests”, naturally, of Russia It is nou hard to imagine how he is now dragging the USA through the mud.

TV Presenter Who Worked for Channel One Russia Charged with Violating U.S. Sanctions Imposed on Russia

The Department of Justice today unsealed two indictments charging Dimitri Simes, 76, and Anastasia Simes, 55, both of Huntly, Virginia, and Russia with two separate schemes to violate U.S. sanctions.

www.justice.gov

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/09/05/doj-justice-russia-elections/

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

The author is a bloody mankurt.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853798383950942642

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856305218230587480

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853495049364865176

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1852408632148668819

As expected... Probably a FETÖcu who supported the government until his cult leader and RTE became "enemies". I still think his article has some truth to it though.

 

[Numberone]

As expected... Probably a FETÖcu who supported the government until his cult leader and RTE became "enemies". I still think his article has some truth to it though.

Did some research looks like someone willing to sell anybody even his own country for monetary & careers gains. He works together with Anti-Turkey (mostly greeks) lobbies. Disgusting. There is even a post online from 2005 that he sold out his partner from Sabancı university. Karaktersiz operasyon evladı. Kesin buralardada takiliyordur.

 

[Zoth]

Man, the rumors about Trump's Cabinet and already official appointments are crazy, i don't know how to word this without using swear words, this cabinet is going to .... us. We must finish that corridor in Syria before Trump gets into White House.

 

[Ryder]

Middle East, Balkans and the Caucasus are all Swamps.

Lets not forget Across the Black Sea with Ukraine vs Russia.

Turkiye's geography is a blessing and a curse.

Take it as you will.

 

[Scott Summers]

The most anti-Turkish US politician in US history, look which position she gets.

https://greekreporter.com/2024/11/14/tulsi-gabbard-greece-turkey-national-intelligence-trump/

 

[Sanchez]

The most anti-Turkish US politician in US history

Lol, hardly.

 

[Zoth]

The most anti-Turkish US politician in US history, look which position she gets.

https://greekreporter.com/2024/11/14/tulsi-gabbard-greece-turkey-national-intelligence-trump/

Eh, this has started to become really tiring, if they really decide to go full anti Turkey, we have our alternatives and while it's certain that we are going to suffer in the short term, in the long term it will be in our favor. They are the ones who are going to need us in the long term and they should finally decide if they want us as allies or not.

 

[Iskander]

Uprising in Abkhazia.
Today, the Abkhaz "parliament" was supposed to consider the ratification of the agreement with Russia on the implementation of investment projects by Russian legal entities on the territory of the "republic". In this regard, the opposition announced a protest action, calling on the country's residents to take an active part in it. According to the opposition, the agreement will negatively affect the sovereignty of Abkhazia. Several thousand people are participating in the action. Security forces used gas, shots are heard...
... The protesters forcibly occupied the building of the "Parliament" and the residence of the "President of the Republic". The "President" and his guards fled.
The opposition says that they are not protesting against Abkhazia's ally - Russia, but against the local government.

Abkhazia is a separatist region of Georgia. After the Russian-Georgian war on 08.08.08, Abkhazia declared its state independence, which no other state except Russia recognizes.

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[Tabmachine]

The most anti-Turkish US politician in US history, look which position she gets.

https://greekreporter.com/2024/11/14/tulsi-gabbard-greece-turkey-national-intelligence-trump/

Look at this for example:

https://americanhellenic.org/congre...r-trip-to-greece/#1574217206146-a6b72d84-13de

Her diagnosis?
"Turkey holds a major presence in the region. I’ve been an outspoken critic of President Erdogan’s actions and the dangerous direction he is taking his country. For example, Turkey is responsible, along with countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United States, for providing direct and indirect support to terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS, and to armed militants who are fighting alongside them and under their command, in places like Syria and Yemen. This is absurd and it must end."

Her prognosis?
"There are a lot of changes that I think are important to be made to U.S. foreign policy. My bill, the Stop Arming Terrorists Act, is an important first step towards ending the destructive interventionist regime change war policies that our country has held onto for far too long. We need to focus on actually defeating those who pose a threat to us – terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda – not continuing policies that result in strengthening these terrorist groups. Again, I think there are a lot of opportunities and shared interests between the United States and Greece and we should further explore ways to collaborate that will result in defeating terrorist groups that threaten us and create more long-term stability within the region."

She's clearly taking these fuckers for a ride. The answer to Turkish hard power in the east Mediterranean is...stopping interventionist regime change policies???

She's definitely very Islamophobic in general, which is quite natural for a hindu. She rails on about "Islamic Terrorism" yada yada. At the same time, she appears o have some strange pro-russian bent that inspires her to constantly call for retreating from Syria. Honestly, at this point I'm not too sure about how she'll operate as DNI (in regards to Turkish interests).

 

[GoatsMilk]

Look at this for example:

https://americanhellenic.org/congre...r-trip-to-greece/#1574217206146-a6b72d84-13de

Her diagnosis?
"Turkey holds a major presence in the region. I’ve been an outspoken critic of President Erdogan’s actions and the dangerous direction he is taking his country. For example, Turkey is responsible, along with countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United States, for providing direct and indirect support to terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS, and to armed militants who are fighting alongside them and under their command, in places like Syria and Yemen. This is absurd and it must end."

Her prognosis?
"There are a lot of changes that I think are important to be made to U.S. foreign policy. My bill, the Stop Arming Terrorists Act, is an important first step towards ending the destructive interventionist regime change war policies that our country has held onto for far too long. We need to focus on actually defeating those who pose a threat to us – terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda – not continuing policies that result in strengthening these terrorist groups. Again, I think there are a lot of opportunities and shared interests between the United States and Greece and we should further explore ways to collaborate that will result in defeating terrorist groups that threaten us and create more long-term stability within the region."

She's clearly taking these fuckers for a ride. The answer to Turkish hard power in the east Mediterranean is...stopping interventionist regime change policies???

She's definitely very Islamophobic in general, which is quite natural for a hindu. She rails on about "Islamic Terrorism" yada yada. At the same time, she appears o have some strange pro-russian bent that inspires her to constantly call for retreating from Syria. Honestly, at this point I'm not too sure about how she'll operate as DNI (in regards to Turkish interests).

Never pay attention to what they say, everything they say is meant to distract, destabilise you or influence your actions in their favour. Only pay attention to what they do and once you do that, everything they have done is consistent and everything they do moving forward will be consistent.

I dont care how many positive or negative things they have said about Turkiye, what i can see is their PKK policy has been consistent, didn't matter who came in and who went out, the agenda remained the same. I treat American foreign policy as if a total dictatorship is calling the shots, because a thousand elections wont change its course.

Only thing that can effect it or change it, is the power the opposing side has to bring to the table.

“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.”

― Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time"

For the most part American elections are just theatre.

In England for example even the common lay person can see how both parties labour and conservative are nearly identical in policy and outlook. Nothing changes except that the agenda persists.

 

[Lool]

Never pay attention to what they say, everything they say is meant to distract, destabilise you or influence your actions in their favour. Only pay attention to what they do and once you do that, everything they have done is consistent and everything they do moving forward will be consistent.

I dont care how many positive or negative things they have said about Turkiye, what i can see is their PKK policy has been consistent, didn't matter who came in and who went out, the agenda remained the same. I treat American foreign policy as if a total dictatorship is calling the shots, because a thousand elections wont change its course.

Only thing that can effect it or change it, is the power the opposing side has to bring to the table.

Finally someone understands how US policy works
As putin once said: whenever a new US president gets elected, men in black suits enter the white office and instructs him on the policies that he needs to follow like a good dog

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1835815003741356088

Another proof that those who simped for Trump being a bit more pro-Turkey and will leave Syria, just watch what he is saying just days after he won.

 

[Tabmachine]

Never pay attention to what they say, everything they say is meant to distract, destabilise you or influence your actions in their favour. Only pay attention to what they do and once you do that, everything they have done is consistent and everything they do moving forward will be consistent.

I dont care how many positive or negative things they have said about Turkiye, what i can see is their PKK policy has been consistent, didn't matter who came in and who went out, the agenda remained the same. I treat American foreign policy as if a total dictatorship is calling the shots, because a thousand elections wont change its course.

Only thing that can effect it or change it, is the power the opposing side has to bring to the table.

“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.”

― Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time"

For the most part American elections are just theatre.

In England for example even the common lay person can see how both parties labour and conservative are nearly identical in policy and outlook. Nothing changes except that the agenda persists.

Yep you're right. The more I investigate, the more this makes sense.

Between the Afghanistan withdrawal, no new wars during his last term, supposed failed attempts at Syria withdrawal, I registered that Trump had some influence over foreign policy corresponding to his claimed viewpoints. However, the Afghanistan withdrawal was subsequently followed by the Ukraine conflict, and Trump greenlighted the initial bills to provide military funding to Ukraine.

As well, while there is the whole story by former Syria Envoy James Jeffrey that Trump ordered withdrawal of troops from Syria, and that the pentagon refused to obey, with Jeffreys office proceeding to play "shell games" (in his own words) in order to deceive Trump as to the actual troop numbers. What was the net effect of this whole supposed story? That the policy and ground activities remained basically the same.

Trump gives off the appearance of being an anomaly, but perhaps I've been a bit naive with foregone conclusion that he truly is.

 

[Yasar_TR]

https://turdef.com/article/israel-destroys-taleghan-2-iranian-nuclear-research-facility

I don’t know if anybody shared this news before.

Apparently during October retaliatory strike, Israel has bombed a site called Taleghan that was supposed to be inactive and closed . But clandestinely in operation for developing detonation system of a nuclear weapon.
Since it was claimed to be shut, Iranians couldn’t say much.

These guys are really playing with fire. let us hope it doesn’t end up in an all out war for the Middle East.

It also proves to us how prepared we need to be in all areas of defence.

 

[Rooxbar]

https://turdef.com/article/israel-destroys-taleghan-2-iranian-nuclear-research-facility

I don’t know if anybody shared this news before.

Apparently during October retaliatory strike, Israel has bombed a site called Taleghan that was supposed to be inactive and closed . But clandestinely in operation for developing detonation system of a nuclear weapon.
Since it was claimed to be shut, Iranians couldn’t say much.

These guys are really playing with fire. let us hope it doesn’t end up in an all out war for the Middle East.

It also proves to us how prepared we need to be in all areas of defence.

I just hope there are experimental university projects going on somewhere on both tracks of heavy-water and uranium reactor in our country. It's not easy to find out about those small-scale experimental reactors if you're diligent enough. I'm fully expecting Iran to announce they're very close to the bomb or that they have tested one in the coming year after JCPOA snap-back expires.