TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

[Huelague]

Saudi Arabia
Kuwait
UAE
Qatar
Kazachstan
Singapore
Indonesia
Malaysia
Pakistan
Nigeria
Algeria
Morocco
Bahrain
Jordan

These are rich islamic countries. Our government has good relations with islamic nations, our Ministry of Trade and Defense should use these networks.

I hope you are just kidding.

 

[boredaf]

What is the estimate date for massproduction of Altay?

KAAN
Altay
KIZILELMA

These 3 Wunderwaffen can make us very rich when we can export them.

There are 56 islamic countries and they will be our customers.

We are selling fuck ton of military equipment and vehicle right now and yet majority of our exports in 2024 were to Europe according to SSB president. If the number of Islamic countries we sell any of those passes more than a handful I'll pop up to Edinburgh and eat haggis.

I find really hilarious that people put so much stock in religion for exports. I doubt their is a single instance someone chose a military product just because a nation was of the same religion instead of what they really wanted/needed or what was cheap.

 

[Huelague]

I find really hilarious that people put so much stock in religion for exports. I doubt their is a single instance someone chose a military product just because a nation was of the same religion instead of what they really wanted/needed or what was cheap.

Where WE get ToT..
USA,
France,
Germany,
Italien,
Spain,
China,
Israel,
Pakistan,
..
Religion seems to be not the motivation here.

 

[begturan]

When we approach events only from a religious perspective, we become more polarized with other countries in the world, just like Israel is polarized with other countries.

Therefore, as a country, we need to cooperate with countries that we have common interests with and act in a more harmonious way with the whole world, we do not need to exclude anyone and make enemies unnecessarily, it is best to approach the parties within the scope of state interests.

It is an undeniable fact that Muslim countries want to cooperate with us to get rid of the influence of colonial countries, but this situation stems from our being a reliable partner, and we must continue to use this situation to our advantage. In addition, our cooperation with countries such as Hungary, Spain, Italia, Kosovo, Georgia, etc. should continue too.

 

[boredaf]

Where WE get ToT..
USA,
France,
Germany,
Italien,
Spain,
China,
Israel,
Pakistan,
..
Religion seems to be not the motivation here.

That's... that's my point? I don't understand what you're trying to say here? Countries don't care about religion when making investments like these, hence, counting on others to buy our products just because they happen to be Muslim is ridiculous, and obviously, vice versa.

 

[Huelague]

That's... that's my point? I don't understand what you're trying to say here? Countries don't care about religion when making investments like these, hence, counting on others to buy our products just because they happen to be Muslim is ridiculous, and obviously, vice versa.

Correct. My argument is not a counter argument.

 

[Ripley]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1894020172593164623

President of Defense Industries Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün announced the ALTAY Tank delivery schedule!

ALTAY-T1:

— 2025: 3 units
— 2026: 11 units
— 2027: 41 units
— 2028: 30 units

A total of 85 ALTAY-T1.

ALTAY-T2: 165 ALTAY-T2 will be produced starting from 2028.

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1894020172593164623

President of Defense Industries Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün announced the ALTAY Tank delivery schedule!

ALTAY-T1:

— 2025: 3 units
— 2026: 11 units
— 2027: 41 units
— 2028: 30 units

A total of 85 ALTAY-T1.

ALTAY-T2: 165 ALTAY-T2 will be produced starting from 2028.

A brand new delivery schedule to say that serial delivery is postponed another year and T1 is back in our lexicon. What a sham.

 

[Quasar]

Frankly speaking start not caring much about Altay time table anymore I am not saying it is not important but it is not at the very top of priority list to be honest

 

[Ripley]

A brand new delivery schedule to say that serial delivery is postponed another year and T1 is back in our lexicon. What a sham.

You’re gonna take it and you’re gonna like it. (They say, not me)

Frankly speaking start not caring much about Altay time table anymore I am not saying it is not important but it is not at the very top of priority list to be honest

Totally. I was kind of hopeful this time but was expecting some timetable shenanigans at the same time. So, yeah, not disappointed.

 

[2033]

We are going slowly because we aim for the best. The T2 will be one of the best tanks in the world.

 

[TheInsider]

T2 will compete against AbramsX, KF51 Panter, K3 etc. Good luck competing against those with T2 in the 2030s.

 

[Strong AI]

T2 will compete against AbramsX, KF51 Panter, K3 etc. Good luck competing against those with T2 in the 2030s.

2030s?
The news says 2028.

 

[Holikarbon]

2030s?
The news says 2028.

It is not t1 that is mentioned, but t2.

 

[Fairon]

We are going slowly because we aim for the best. The T2 will be one of the best tanks in the world.

In this case, it wouldn't hurt us to go a little bit faster though.

 

[Sanchez]

I’m all with you on this one but have spotted an X where the high echelons were examining the production facility model, not the facility itself mind you, and it was from 2024

They did BMC's signing ceremony today in front of the still in construction factory.

 

[Ripley]

They did BMC's signing ceremony today in front of the still in construction factory.

I stand corrected and thank you.
Also deleting my post now
I’m really glad to hear that. One less thing to worry about

 

[Ripley]

They did BMC's signing ceremony today in front of the still in construction factory.

And yet this

Yet another T0 + 24 months thing.
These will be produced in BMC's Ankara factory, aside the status of the factory construction, how fast they can establish and qualify a productio line?
Putting few equipments is not sufficient, they gotta qualify all the stuff, quality control from scratch.. wow, all in 2 years with 29 vehicles seems like another work load on Tank Palet and 3-4 vehicles in 2027.

I’m confused.
Will the AFV and Altay tanks manufactured at separate BMC facilities?
Are the facility/facilities operational?

Thank you guys

 

[Strong AI]

It is not t1 that is mentioned, but t2.

ALTAY-T2: 165 ALTAY-T2 will be produced starting from 2028.

 

[Strong AI]

How much different is this news...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1894020172593164623

President of Defense Industries Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün announced the ALTAY Tank delivery schedule!

ALTAY-T1:

— 2025: 3 units
— 2026: 11 units
— 2027: 41 units
— 2028: 30 units

A total of 85 ALTAY-T1.

ALTAY-T2: 165 ALTAY-T2 will be produced starting from 2028.

...from this older news? Can someone do the math please? Looks like they will reach 100 Tanks per year goal in 2028, because it says 30 T1 in 2028 and start of T2 production in the same year.

And finally some comprehensive updates on Altay production.

"Euro 3.6 Billion worth ALTAY Main Battle Tank (AMT) Serial Production Contract signed on November 2018, the Turkish Land Forces Command will be provided with the New ALTAY Main Battle Tank and the New ALTAY Training Vehicles (such as the Driver Training Tank) and different types of simulators (both complete tank simulators) for user training as well as a large number of training purposes under the Integrated Logistics Support (ILS) Package, BMC DEFENSE, which will also deliver simulators and mock-ups for sub-systems piece by piece, has made the New ALTAY, which it designed in line with new requirements in line with the demands of the Turkish Armed Forces, ready for mass production in Arifiye.

As it will be remembered, BMC DEFENSE started the production of the New ALTAY AMT in Arifiye and delivered the first two New ALTAY AMTs equipped with the Korean Power Group, which it produced by spending 10,000 hours of labor, to the Turkish Land Forces for testing purposes with a ceremony held on April 23, 2023.

A series of improvement works are being carried out on these two new production New ALTAY AMTs within the framework of the feedback obtained after nearly two years of survivability, endurance and firing tests and the new requirements requested by the end user. These two New ALTAY AMTs, which are being brought to the final configuration that will form the basis for Mass Production, are expected to enter the service of the Turkish Land Forces in mid-2025. BMC DEFENSE is also working on the production of additional New ALTAY AMTs in Arifiye until the new production facility to be established in Ankara under the ALTAY Serial Production Phase is ready. Meanwhile, General Selçuk BAYRAKTAROĞLU, Commander of the Turkish Land Forces, announced that one of the New ALTAY AMTs took part in the filming of the TV series "Black Beret" during his speech at the delivery ceremony of 100 TTZA with indigenous engines produced by BMC on Friday, January 10, 2025.

The first deliveries are expected to start in the second half of 2025 in the New ALTAY AMT Serial Production, which will be carried out in the new armored vehicle factory in Ankara, which is currently under construction and equipping activities and is expected to be activated in mid-2025. Under the New ALTAY AMT Serial Production Phase, the production rate is planned to reach 8 units per month depending on the learning curve, and in this context, the production rate is expected to be realized as 1+1+2+4+8 in the first phase.

At a previous press conference, it was shared with the press members that BMC DEFENSE Ankara Armored Vehicle Factory is planning a production capacity of up to 100 tanks per year, 20-30 of which are planned for the export market. In the first phase, the South Korean Power Group will be used in the new ALTAY AMTs. The Korean Power Pack consists of Doosan's 12-cylinder (V12), 27.2 liter, 1,500bg DV27K Diesel Engine and SNT Dynamics' EST15K Automatic Transmission (6 forward and 3 reverse gears) with hydraulic torque converter.

The BATU Power Pack, which is being developed by BMC Power with national facilities, is planned to start its official test campaign on the New ALTAY AMT in 2026, and after extensive tests that will last approximately two years, the BATU Power Pack is planned to be included in the new production New ALTAY AMTs to be released from the mass production line starting from 2028. The BATU Power Pack will consist of a 12-cylinder, V-type, water-cooled turbo-diesel V12 diesel engine with a maximum power of at least 1,500bg (1,110kW) and a maximum torque of at least 4,600Nm, a cross-drive automatic transmission (with 6 forward and 2 reverse gears) with steering and braking functions in the 'U' linkage (U-Drive) type to be paired with it, and subsystems related to the cooling package.

For more:

Yeni ALTAY AMT Seri Üretime Hazır Hale Geldi!

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