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[Oublious]

 

[boredaf]

I wonder if Levent missile fit and fool RIM-112 system! Imagine we exporting Fake missiles for RAM systems

This is just embarrassing.

 

[hugh]

Bro,
Totally different technologies between the two systems.
RAM, as the name suggests is a Rolling Airframe Missile.
Because of its two axis interferometer, it needs to revolve to get the third axis when measuring radar frequency phase interference when targeting incoming threats.

According to information released by Roketsan, the Levent missile is developed by taking Sungur missile as a base. So it is a dual seeker head missile that has both passive RF and IIR.

Also our missile is 1mm wider and 41cm longer than block 1 RAM; Much narrower than block 2. It has slightly more range than the RAM Block 2 as well.

Sir, I watched the video again and around 0:49(slow-mo) the missile is clearly rolling clock-wise(looking from behind).

 

[Strong AI]

Sir, I watched the video again and around 0:49(slow-mo) the missile is clearly rolling clock-wise(looking from behind).

That is an optical illusion. The back fins extend at that moment.

 

[hugh]

That is an optical illusion. The back fins extend at that moment.

I wasn't looking at the fins. the black markings on the missile clearly shows it that it's in a roll.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Sir, I watched the video again and around 0:49(slow-mo) the missile is clearly rolling clock-wise(looking from behind).

Pls watch 3.00 minutes +
RAM has a very different rotation to the missile we were allowed to watch the flight of. You can clearly see the antennas rotating.

The levent missile in the above video has no fins to guide it. Yet the Roketsan’s site clearly shows a missile with twin front fins. This is either a specific test missile, or Roketsan has changed the kinematics and aerodynamics of the levent missile.

The nozzle part of the missile in this video doesn’t seem to have any guidance fins either; unless they are opened some distance away. If no fins, It may have TVC to manoeuvre.

Most rockets do roll a certain amount to correct their launch azimuth. There is also a gravity turn of rockets to stabilise their flight. These two are distinctively different from each other and both are different from the rotation of the RAM.

IIR and RF guided Levent missile does not have twin antennas to necessitate a roll.

 

[mTT]

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910404638911979762

 

[Ripley]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910665410816393598

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910667440779907101

Mr. Kozan Erkan:
“@kanerkurt In previous broadcasts we did say let's do this, we really did. We can do it cheaper than Korea, Sarı Reis”

Such a deal is almost impossible, I know but, hypothetically, can our shipyards launch such number of AEGIS destroyers every year? Do we own that kind of capacity really?

 

[Anmdt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910665410816393598

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910667440779907101

Mr. Kozan Erkan:
“@kanerkurt In previous broadcasts we did say let's do this, we really did. We can do it cheaper than Korea, Sarı Reis”

Such a deal is almost impossible, I know but, hypothetically, can our shipyards launch such number of AEGIS destroyers every year? Do we own that kind of capacity really?

Nope,
And no way cheaper than Korea. (Automation and et al.)
Korea has been the second destination for cheap construction for complex ships (such as cruisers) for a long time. They can adopt the same for steel construction of warships.
%90 of Turkish shipyards are merely a repair workshop, nothing further.
Hyundai's shipyard alone has larger capacity than entire Tuzla shipyards region.

 

[Ripley]

Hyundai's shipyard alone has larger capacity than entire Tuzla shipyards region.

Thank you.

 

[Strong AI]

Bayraktar TB3 Goes Submarine Hunting: ASELSAN Sonobuoy Test Announced by Cihat Yaycı

Bayraktar TB3 is gaining anti-submarine capabilities. Retired Rear Admiral Cihat Yaycı has announced that the TB3, developed by Baykar and instrumental in giving TCG ANADOLU the title of the world's first UAV carrier, has dropped ‘Sonobuoy’ sensors into the sea for submarine detection.

The Bayraktar TB3, which gave TCG ANADOLU the title of the world's first short-runway UAV carrier, appears to have taken the first step in a critical test related to submarine hunting. Retired Rear Admiral Cihat Yaycı stated that the expendable 'Sonobuoy' device used for submarine detection was deployed from the TB3 UAV into the water.

After being dropped into a specific location in the sea by the aerial vehicle, multiple Sonobuoys are positioned in the depths. Using passive directional frequencies, they can detect the presence of a submarine when it passes through that region.

BOTH TB3 AND AKSUNGUR TO HUNT SUBMARINES

Yaycı emphasized the historical importance of the Sonobuoy test with the TB3 in a broadcast on Haber Global, stating:

“Sonobuoys have been deployed for conducting anti-submarine warfare with UAVs. Sonobuoy means... Sensors are dropped to detect submarines, and these devices pick up signals from submarines. Once a signal is received, this information is transmitted to a surface ship or aircraft.

It works through magnetic anomalies. It detects the submarine and reports the information either to the aircraft or the ship. Bayraktar TB3s launched from TCG ANADOLU will detect submarines from great distances and transmit the information to TCG ANADOLU, other ships, and airborne assets involved in anti-submarine warfare. We are probably the first country to do this with an unmanned aerial vehicle.”

The test, which Yaycı announced based on his sources, has not yet been officially confirmed by Baykar as of April 16, 2025. However, it is known that Baykar has long intended to carry out Sonobuoy tests with the Bayraktar TB3.

A similar mission is expected to be carried out by TUSAŞ's AKSUNGUR UAV. AKSUNGUR is planned to carry both the Sonobuoy and the lightweight torpedo ORKA. However, no information has yet been published about AKSUNGUR conducting Sonobuoy deployment tests.

Meanwhile, the Sonobuoy test by Bayraktar TB3 is considered a world first. Although Sonobuoy deployment from UAVs has been done before, Bayraktar TB3 gains a unique distinction for being the first UAV in its class with short-runway aircraft carrier take-off and landing capability to perform such a test. In other words, no UAV that could operate from a ship similar to TCG ANADOLU had previously conducted a Sonobuoy drop.

U.S.-made UAVs like the MQ-9C Fire Scout, MQ-4C Triton, and MQ-9B SeaGuardian can also deploy Sonobuoy sensors.

ASELSAN-MADE SENSOR: ASELBUOY SPECIFICATIONS

It is considered almost certain that the sensor used in Bayraktar TB3’s anti-submarine tests is the ASELBUOY-100P.

ASELSAN describes its passive directional submarine-hunting sensor as follows:

“ASELBUOY-100P is a passive directional Sonobuoy developed in NATO A-size, deployable from maritime patrol aircraft, UAVs, unmanned surface vessels, or surface ships. When deployed from air or surface platforms, it descends to the sea surface via a stabilizing parachute.

After entering the water, it quickly deploys into components that stay underwater (acoustic sensors and mechanical parts) and those that remain on the surface (control/communication parts).

ASELBUOY-100P can collect omni-directional and directional acoustic information in the 5-2400Hz frequency band on a horizontal plane at two different operational depths. It transmits this information in real-time using one of 96 VHF channels via an antenna housed in the floating buoy to air and surface platforms for passive submarine signal detection.

The Sonobuoy’s operational depth, VHF communication channel, and operational duration can be programmed from its own user interface (EFS) before deployment.

Once the programmed operational time ends, the expendable Sonobuoy self-scuttles. After deployment, RF broadcast on/off, operational duration, and VHF communication channel can be modified via the UHF band through the CFS command interface.”

ASELBUOY WEIGHT, LENGTH, AND OPERATING DEPTH

• Size: A-size
• Length: 915 mm
• Diameter: 120 mm
• Weight: 10 kg
• Power Source: Lithium Alloy Battery
• Programming: EFS, CFS
• Operating Depth: 30m–150m (EFS programmable)
• Operating Life: 0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8 hours (EFS programmable)
• RF Channel: 1–99 (EFS programmable), 96 selectable channels
• VHF Broadcast RF Output: 1 Watt nominal
• RF Command Receiver: UHF-single channel (291.4 MHz)
• RF Transmitter Stability: +/- 25 kHz
• Acoustic Frequency Range: DIFAR (5 Hz–2400 Hz)
• Shelf Life: 5 years

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912606936685588500

Bayraktar TB3'ten atılan ASELBUOY denizaltı avlıyor: İşte millî Sonobuoy sensörünün özellikleri - TRHaber

Bayraktar TB3, denizaltı avcısı özelliği kazanıyor. Emekli Tümamiral Cihat Yaycı, Baykar tarafından geliştirilen ve TCG ANADOLU'ya dünyanın ilk SİHA gemisi unvanı kazandıran TB3'ün, denizaltı tespitinde kullanılan 'Sonobuoy' sensörlerini mavi sulara attığ

www.trhaber.com

 

[Tornadoss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912606936685588500

Bayraktar TB3'ten atılan ASELBUOY denizaltı avlıyor: İşte millî Sonobuoy sensörünün özellikleri - TRHaber

Bayraktar TB3, denizaltı avcısı özelliği kazanıyor. Emekli Tümamiral Cihat Yaycı, Baykar tarafından geliştirilen ve TCG ANADOLU'ya dünyanın ilk SİHA gemisi unvanı kazandıran TB3'ün, denizaltı tespitinde kullanılan 'Sonobuoy' sensörlerini mavi sulara attığ

www.trhaber.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912792988075385159

 

[Strong AI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912792988075385159

The list of credible sources getting shorter and shorter.

 

[boredaf]

TR news piece mentioned in the tweet already said it wasn't confirmed by Baykar. Unless it comes from official sources, OR, with a video evidence, we shouldn't just believe things.

 

[Strong AI]

TRT news piece mentioned in the tweet already said it wasn't confirmed by Baykar. Unless it comes from official sources, OR, with a video evidence, we shouldn't just believe things.

Yeah. But do you mean TR news? It is the one in that tweet which i have posted.

 

[boredaf]

Yeah. But do you mean TR news? It is the one in that tweet which i have posted.

Yes, sorry mate

 

[mTT]

OFF-SHORE PATROL VESSEL - AKHİSAR

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914647315563917660

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914647315563917660

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Another i class almost finished...

 

[Pokemonte13]

Another i class almost finished...

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