TR TF35000 Turbofan Engine

[TheInsider]

Russian military publication Topwar, after 15 months, finally published a video of the first flight of the Turkish KAAN. Interestingly, this was done only after the announcement of its TF-35000 engine.
Article about the engine.
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"Will ensure independence from the capricious West": Türkiye has shown a national engine for the Kaan fighter jet

«Turkish company TEI (TUSAŞ Engine Industries), manufacturer aviation engines, showed the first official image of the TF35000 turbofan power plant, created for the Kaan aircraft, which is positioned as a fifth-generation fighter.
The 35000-pound thrust TF35 is one of Turkey's most significant breakthroughs - says the developer.
As stated in this regard in the Turkish press, the new product of the country's defense industry "challenges existing jet engines in the West and symbolizes the transition to aerospace sovereignty." In terms of thrust, it matches the power of the F119 from Pratt Whitney on the F-22 and exceeds such products as the EJ200 on the Eurofighter Typhoon (26 thousand pounds), the M88 on the Rafale (17-20 thousand pounds) and the F110 modifications used on the F-16 and F-15 (up to 29 thousand pounds). Only the F135 engine on the F-35 with a thrust of 43 thousand in afterburner mode exceeds the TF35000.
According to TEI, the power plant was created using advanced solutions, including high-temperature-resistant superalloys, advanced thermal protection coatings and innovative cooling technologies.
The TF35000 is the result of almost two decades of work by TEI. The company previously produced subsystems and components for engines such as the T700 (used on Turkish Black Hawk helicopters and the T129 ATAK) and developed the TS1400 for domestic rotorcraft.
Currently, the Kaan prototypes and the Turkish Air Force's F-16s undergoing modernization are powered by General Electric's F110 engines. The TF35000 provides similar thrust, but guarantees sovereignty from external supplies dependent on the "capricious US and the West in general."
In a world where air supremacy increasingly depends on who owns the power plant, a national engine will allow the country to take its rightful place on the international stage. - they believe in the Turkish press».
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https://en.topwar.ru/264744-obespechit-nezavisimost-ot-kapriznogo-zapada-turcija-pokazala-nacionalnyj-dvigatel-dlja-istrebitelja-kaan.html

Lol We have seen this movie before. They can't do it, even if they can do it won't work, it will be worse than this that... etc. The funniest one is Turks have been working on that for 2 decades. Sure mate whatever makes you sleep comfortable at night.

 

[KAAN]

A higher resolution illustration of the TF35000 serviced by TRMOTOR.

 

[Huelague]

Am I right, the engine will has a dry thrust of 50.000 Ibf?

 

[KAAN]

Am I right, the engine will has a dry thrust of 50.000 Ibf?

TurAF has set a minimum requirement of 25.000 lbf dry thrust per engine. Total maximum dry thrust should not be less than 50.000 lbf.

 

[Huelague]

TurAF has set a minimum requirement of 25.000 lbf dry thrust per engine. Total maximum dry thrust should not be less than 50.000 lbf.

What can be the final kN (wet thrust)?

 

[Pokemonte13]

What can be the final kN (wet thrust)?

As they are trying to make a copy of the f119 i would say 155 KN or 35000 lbs of thrust with max afterburner

 

[Merzifonlu]

What can be the final kN (wet thrust)?

I think it will be 26.000 lbf around dry thrust (115 kN) and 36.000 lbf wet thrust (160 kN).

 

[KAAN]

What can be the final kN (wet thrust)?

More than 36.000 lbf (160 kN)

The TF35000 code is because the TurAF’s minimum requirement for maximum thrust is 35.000 lbf (155 kN), just like the PW-F119.

Theoretical maximum is around 38.000–38.500 lbf (171 kN), similarly, dry thrust will also be approximately 10% above (27.000-28.000 lbf, 120-125 kN) the minimum requirements.

TEI has so far achieved around 10% more power than targeted in the turboshaft engines, but a turbofan is a completely different realm.

An engine that will make it in time for Block-3 in 2032, delivered with minimum thrust requirements and enabling supercruise capability at mach 1.4 + multispectral LO (IR, RF, acoustic), would already be a major success.

 

[Huelague]

The funniest one is Turks have been working on that for 2 decades.

On what? TF-35.000?

 

[chngr]

More than 36.000 lbf (160 kN)

The TF35000 code is because the TurAF’s minimum requirement for maximum thrust is 35.000 lbf (155 kN), just like the PW-F119.

Theoretical maximum is around 38.000–38.500 lbf (171 kN), similarly, dry thrust will also be approximately 10% above (27.000-28.000 lbf, 120-125 kN) the minimum requirements.

TEI has so far achieved around 10% more power than targeted in the turboshaft engines, but a turbofan is a completely different realm.

An engine that will make it in time for Block-3 in 2032, delivered with minimum thrust requirements and enabling supercruise capability at mach 1.4 + multispectral LO (IR, RF, acoustic), would already be a major success.

Why would they do that...35.000lbf is enough for KAAN

More power...you sacrificed to engine's life and maintainence cost

 

[Merzifonlu]

Why would they do that...35.000lbf is enough for KAAN

More power...you sacrificed to engine's life and maintainence cost

The President of the SSB, Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün, recently announced that the engine will provide 36,000 lbf thrust. In other words, the fact that the engine will provide 36,000 lbf thrust is not actually an estimate, it is official information. If we make an estimate based on the P&W F119 engine, the dry thrust of an engine with a wet thrust of 36,000 lbf should be at least 26,000 lbf.

 

[Huelague]

Why would they do that...35.000lbf is enough for KAAN

More power...you sacrificed to engine's life and maintainence cost

Whats the thrust - weight ratio you need for wet thrust without afterburner?

 

[chngr]

Whats the thrust - weight ratio you need for wet thrust without afterburner?

We dont know KAAN's gross weight... wet trust/gross weight rate is 0.8 for F-22, 0.7 for EF

if KAAN's gross weight is 60.000lb....24.000lbf (0.8) or 21.000lbf (0.7) will be enough

We know KAAN's supercruise requirement lower than F-22..

 

[Huelague]

We dont know KAAN's gross weight... wet trust/gross weight rate is 0.8 for F-22, 0.7 for EF

if KAAN's gross weight is 60.000lb....24.000lbf (0.8) or 21.000lbf (0.7) will be enough

We know KAAN's supercruise requirement lower than F-22..

Are you sure?