Live Conflict Pakistan-India Conflict (2025)

[TR_123456]

Busy with life and work. How about you?

Same here,you still have your Youtube channel?
Good to see you ,its been a long time.

 

[Levina]

Same here,you still have your Youtube channel?
Good to see you ,its been a long time.

Yes, it exists. We've expanded a bit since last time we had a discussion.

 

[TR_123456]

Yes, it exists. We've expanded a bit since last time we had a discussion.

Cant find the video of the German analist,even forgotten the name.
Post a link so i can watch your discussion.

 

[Levina]

Cant find the video of the German analist,even forgotten the name.
Post a link so i can watch your discussion.

I had posted a twitter thread. Had discussions on other youtube channels where I was invited. This is my twitter thread. (if u scroll down u'll see multiple posts covered between May 7-- to-- may17)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1919855003134788093

 

[GAzilla]

'Rafale's finest hour has passed': Indonesia suspends purchase of French fighter jets

Indonesia's pricey $8,1 billion order for 42 Rafale fighters from France has been thrown into serious doubt after the jet's disastrous debut in recent fighting between India and Pakistan. aviation.

The purchase of the aircraft has been suspended. The contract could be scuppered by alarming allegations of their poor performance in recent military operations. The Rafale's finest hour has passed
- says the publication Galaxia Militar.

https://en.topwar.ru/264738-zvezdnyj-chas-rafale-proshel-indonezija-priostanavlivaet-zakupku-francuzskih-istrebitelej.html

There are several articles claiming the suspension of the procurement. I feel like these articles should not resort to sensational falsehoods. As of this time, no notice or change has been enacted regarding the procurement. No funds withdrawn, no notice of suspension, nothing. Reviews and discussions within the government are ongoing as well as the procurement itself. Not saying things won't change in the future but several outlets are jumping the gun on this imo.

 

[Rajendra Chola]

India is concerned over the AMRAAM Sale by the US to Turkey, that the Missiles could land in the Hand of Pakistan.

MSN

Where in the article did India or any of its official raised concern? I read through it and other than the Indian Author , doesn’t have anything. Poor article by any standards.

 

[chibiyabi]

'Rafale's finest hour has passed': Indonesia suspends purchase of French fighter jets

Indonesia's pricey $8,1 billion order for 42 Rafale fighters from France has been thrown into serious doubt after the jet's disastrous debut in recent fighting between India and Pakistan. aviation.

The purchase of the aircraft has been suspended. The contract could be scuppered by alarming allegations of their poor performance in recent military operations. The Rafale's finest hour has passed
- says the publication Galaxia Militar.

We are talking about Islamabad’s claims, partially confirmed by relevant footage, about the defeat of French-origin fighters by PL-15E long-range air-to-air missiles launched from the J-10C (missiles, as well as their carriers, were purchased from China). According to local sources, in solidarity with Pakistani pilots, Chinese pilots painted symbols of the aircraft that Islamabad claims were shot down on their J-10C aircraft - 3 Rafale, one Su-30MKI and MiG-21, and one Heron UAV: "It is a symbol of unbreakable brotherhood and a clear warning to opponents"

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As Galaxia Militar notes, the Rafale's claims of failure have raised concerns among Indonesia's top defense planners. While the claims remain largely unverified, they have prompted the Defense Ministry to "quietly begin testing the Rafale's operational reliability."

With the first batch of Rafales scheduled to be delivered in early 2026, officials in Jakarta now face a delicate but important decision: whether to move forward, pause, or change course.
- explained in the publication.

The deal signed in 2022 to acquire Rafale jets equipped with advanced radars and weapons systems was meant to provide a leap forward for the country in modernising its air force.

But news Pakistan's shooting down of three Rafales in a recent clash with India has undermined the jet's combat reputation
- the author writes.

New Delhi has yet to officially confirm or deny the losses, but India's Air Marshal A.K. Bharti said "we are in a state of war, combat losses are expected." France's Dassault Aviation, the manufacturer of the Rafale, has also remained silent. But sources say Paris is conducting its own investigation, examining radar records, telemetry and imagery to determine the veracity of the reports.

In Jakarta, the news did not go unnoticed.
- declares the author.

However, as the author explains, the Rafale's combat experience in Libya, Mali and Syria was largely limited to ground-attack missions in asymmetric warfare against technologically inferior opponents. But the aircraft did not engage in combat against equal foes: "If the losses are confirmed, it would be a serious blow to France".

Shares in jet maker Dassault fell nearly 10% in the five days following news of the fighter jets being shot down, and analysts are now warning that potential buyers may begin to reconsider their purchasing strategies.

We cannot afford to buy a system that works well only on paper. We need fighting authority, not promises.
- noted a source in the Indonesian Air Force.

https://en.topwar.ru/264738-zvezdnyj-chas-rafale-proshel-indonezija-priostanavlivaet-zakupku-francuzskih-istrebitelej.html

please..don't take it so easy especialy from Ru website, who desperate want to sell their Su 35 to indonesia

 

[Rajendra Chola]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924277767408918651

 

[GoatsMilk]

Judging my this thread, Pakistan possible downed a few Indian jets while India from the looks of it hit many Pakistani bases and the totality of the damage could exceed what's seen in the images.

Does Pakistan have any equivalent images, one of the claims India made was that hundreds of Pakistani drones were launched against India?

 

[Iskander]

please..don't take it so easy especialy from Ru website, who desperate want to sell their Su 35 to indonesia

If I quote an article, it doesn't mean that I agree with everything written in it. It just seems to me that few people read Russian resources here because of the Cyrillic alphabet.
There is a lot of lies and propaganda there, I filter it out. I have a long-standing allergy to them, since Soviet times.
I have been following arms exports from Russia for a long time, especially aircraft, and I am aware of what is happening. Several years ago, we wanted to buy Su-35s from them, but they refused and offered us MiG-35s, which no one, not even they themselves, needed.
That's when we chose the Pakistani JF-17. That's what interests me in this conflict.
We also have good relations with China. In my opinion, China would not refuse to sell us those famous PL-15 missiles.

By the way, do you know where our Indonesian friend Gary is?

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924414107874107715

France has refused to share the source codes requested by India to integrate indigenous weapons into Rafale fighter jets.

Despite India’s insistence on this issue, French manufacturer Dassault Aviation has not backed down.

 

[Nilgiri]

Judging my this thread, Pakistan possible downed a few Indian jets while India from the looks of it hit many Pakistani bases and the totality of the damage could exceed what's seen in the images.

Does Pakistan have any equivalent images, one of the claims India made was that hundreds of Pakistani drones were launched against India?

Very little damage on Indian AFBs (from all thats out there objectively from sat intel) from what's been released from say 3rd party remote sensing including Chinese and Western.

India announced it lost 1 personnel at one of their AFBs from a drone attack....but no objective evidence to any mid or major damage to AFB infra has appeared from anyone....from both drones and the Fatah missile launches.

Pakistan announced the loss of at least 5 PAF personnel (all at Bholari AFB, where you see the major penetrative roof damage in that one pic) and there is clear destruction on PAF infra on a number of their bases that were targetted by Indian drones + CMs.

 

[Nilgiri]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924414107874107715

France has refused to share the source codes requested by India to integrate indigenous weapons into Rafale fighter jets.

Despite India’s insistence on this issue, French manufacturer Dassault Aviation has not backed down.

The original source everyone seems to be quoting from:

Dassault’s Reluctance to Share Rafale Source Code with India - Indian Defence Research Wing

SOURCE: RAUNAK KUNDE / NEWS BEAT / IDRW.ORG India’s quest for deeper integration of indigenous weapons into its fleet of Rafale fighter jets has hit a roadblock, as Dassault Aviation, the French manufacturer of the Rafale, has shown reluctance to share access to the aircraft’s source code...

idrw.org

 

[Zapper]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924441557765333299

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924362988913385757

 

[Zapper]

 

[Zapper]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924306295961628778

 

[Paro]

Operation Sindoor and the Evolution of India’s Military Strategy Against Pakistan – War on the Rocks

Once more unto the breach, India struck inside Pakistan in response to a terrorist attack. Once more, the two sides escalated — again to unprecedented

warontherocks.com

@Nilgiri. @Zapper

 

[Nilgiri]

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Cooper is jumping the gun too much lately. The bottom right ejection seat was from earlier mirage crash iirc in PAF.

The wreckage analysis etc, we have to wait for proper debrief again from Indian side to begin with.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Very little damage on Indian AFBs (from all thats out there objectively from sat intel) from what's been released from say 3rd party remote sensing including Chinese and Western.

India announced it lost 1 personnel at one of their AFBs from a drone attack....but no objective evidence to any mid or major damage to AFB infra has appeared from anyone....from both drones and the Fatah missile launches.

Pakistan announced the loss of at least 5 PAF personnel (all at Bholari AFB, where you see the major penetrative roof damage in that one pic) and there is clear destruction on PAF infra on a number of their bases that were targetted by Indian drones + CMs.

So is it safe to say that Pakistan attempted to strike Indian positions but for the most part failed? While conversely it does look like India had some success striking Pakistani positions.

 

[Jackdaws]

So is it safe to say that Pakistan attempted to strike Indian positions but for the most part failed? While conversely it does look like India had some success striking Pakistani positions.

That’s fine. I guess the only Pakistani resistance came in the first couple hours of the strike when they may have managed to take down at least two aircraft.

Once there was a regrouping , Indian defences pretty much stopped all Pak drones and missiles using S400 and Akash. Pak on the other hand must have also intercepted Indian drones and missiles but many sneaked past their defences and hit their targets on various airbases.

Lots of nonsense spread by media on both sides. Indian media without evidence claimed attacking Karachi (Bholari is 100 miles away where it struck).
Pak media even claimed capturing an Indian female pilot - I don’t think India uses female pilots in combat roles @Nilgiri can verify.
But beyond all the chest thumping, it seems Pak defences were found wanting. I am sure they will work on those now.

Also, it seems obvious (again @Nilgiri can verify) - Neither side targeted civilian areas. In fact I don’t think they have done it any wars except along the LoC