TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1932633987912249624

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1932672341814776313

 

[Agha Sher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1932726635649720653

Confirmed! Massive for Turkiye's defence industry.

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1932726635649720653

Confirmed! Massive for Turkiye's defence industry.

I would like to share with the nation a very important and beautiful development regarding our national combat aircraft KAAN...

Within the framework of the agreement we signed with our friend and brother Indonesia, 48 KAANs will be produced in Turkey and exported to Indonesia.

Indonesia's local capabilities will also be utilized in the production of the KAAN.

I hope that this agreement, which demonstrates the development and the point reached by our domestic and national defense industry, will be beneficial for Turkey and Indonesia.

I convey my greetings and thanks to my esteemed counterpart, Indonesian President Prabowo Subianto, who played a major role in the signing of the agreement with his will.

@SavunmaSanayii Our Presidency and @TUSAS_TR I would like to congratulate all the organizations that have contributed to the production of KAAN and the signing of this record-breaking export contract in Turkey's history.

I wish the continued success of all our companies, which we have provided all kinds of support for the further strengthening of our defense industry and which we will support with determination from now on, and I express my gratitude to all my brothers and sisters working in the defense industry.

 

[Zafer]

Kaan order book opened with an entry by Indonesia. Below map is my personal guess for the near future.

 

[mTT]

Kaan order book opened with an entry by Indonesia. Below map is my personal guess for the foreseeable future.

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Can Pakistan order KAAN after receiving J-35?
Can Turkey provide a loan so that Pakistan can buy KAAN?

 

[TR_123456]

Can Pakistan order KAAN after receiving J-35?
Can Turkey provide a loan so that Pakistan can buy KAAN?

Why not?
Pakistan,

F-16 USA
JF-17 China/Pakistan
J-10 China

So,why not?

 

[uçuyorum]

Why not?
Pakistan,

F-16 USA
JF-17 China/Pakistan
J-10 China

So,why not?

Will be too many expensive jets, they are buying 40 new 5th gens, awacs and air defense form China, they seem to have realized the immediacy of their weaknesses after recent incident and won't wait for Kaan and won't have money for it any time soo. Maybe in the future

 

[Afif]

Perfect choice for Indonesia. It will offer credible deterrence without relaying on US. I do see them buying additional batch of 48/50 aircrafts in 2030s as the indo-pacific heats up and their economy grows.

Also, $200-220 millions per KAAN sounds very good as package deal. (Assuming it is)

 

[mTT]

Why not?
Pakistan,

F-16 USA
JF-17 China/Pakistan
J-10 China

So,why not?

Pakistan is purchasing the J-35 fighter jet at a discounted price without having paid off the loan for the J-10. China is providing a new loan for the J-35 while deferring the repayment of the J-10 loan.

Since Pakistan is already repaying two separate aircraft loans, it cannot afford to purchase our KAAN fighter jet with an upfront payment.

Can we offer them credit? (We were unable to offer credit for warship sales to other countries.)

 

[Strong AI]

I wonder if Indonesia will get KAAN with turkish engine, or why would it be a 10-year project for 48 Jets? Türkiye is very confident after all that KAAN's indigenous engine will succeed.
Imo Pakistan and Azerbaijan are waiting for the first engine prototype to place their orders.

 

[Khagan1923]

I wonder if Indonesia will get KAAN with turkish engine, or why would it be a 10-year project for 48 Jets? Türkiye is very confident after all that KAAN's indigenous engine will succeed.
Also i think Pakistan and Azerbaijan are waiting for the first engine prototype to place their orders.

Well Logic would dictate that a State Department that has no problems selling F-15EX fighters to Indonesia would have no objection but then again who knows in what kinda state the US will be in 5 years from now.

 

[mTT]

I wonder if Indonesia will get KAAN with turkish engine, or why would it be a 10-year project for 48 Jets? Türkiye is very confident after all that KAAN's indigenous engine will succeed.
Also i think Pakistan and Azerbaijan are waiting for the first engine prototype to place their orders.

TF35000

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1932746687594049652

 

[Strong AI]

TF35000

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1932746687594049652

They posted it on their Instagram only?

Anyways this means we show a big middle finger to USA. Indonesia will probably show it to France.

 

[Yasar_TR]

You can not sell a fighter plane when it is not ready. It is not credible and logical for a country to buy a fighter jet when it is still being developed.
Kaan still needs extensive tests and is no where near ready as a fighter. It’s avionics, radar and structure still needs many improvements and verifications of the technologies to be used on it.
Even as a 4.5 generation plane it is not ready. Hell! Even the f110 engines’ arrival are suspect.
Domestic prototype engine manufacturing is not even started yet.
No country on earth will buy outright such an unfinished plane, no matter whoever is claiming it so!
If they said that Indonesia has been accepted as a partner in to the program who will actively help developing it and also committing to purchase 48 planes in the end. That is credible and conceivable.

Indonesia doesn’t have a very good track record. Due to non payment of their part of the Boramae project, they are at the verge of being kicked out of the program. If memory serves, they have a 7.5% stake in the program now.
They had a contract to buy SU35s from Russia. They went back on it due to Caatsa threat.
They signed a contract for Rafale purchase. Now there are news that they are cancelling it and are signing a contract for buying from Chinese stocks same number of J10Cs.
They had signed a contract with US to purchase F15EX fighters. There are news that this too is in jeopardy.

What ever contract they signed with Turkey, is not worth the paper it is written on.

 

[mTT]

TAI General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu:
- "We are planning to sell 48 KAANs to Indonesia. The first delivery will be in the 2030s. Deliveries will be made with a domestic engine. It has a value between 12-15 billion dollars."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1932760439827673565

@Strong AI

 

[mTT]

48+12 KAAN in 84 months!

SSB President Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün:

A KAAN 5th generation fighter jet export contract was signed with the Indonesian Ministry of Defense.

In the first phase, 48 and an additional 12 KAANs will be produced. The KAANs, all of which will be produced in Turkey, will be delivered to the Indonesian Ministry of Defense.

Deliveries will be completed within 84 months.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1932757033960259922

 

[NEKO]

They signed a contract for Rafale purchase. Now there are news that they are cancelling it and are signing a contract for buying from Chinese stocks same number of J10Cs.

BS.
Indonesia is currently waiting for Rafale delivery, and considering for additional order.

 

[Strong AI]

You can not sell a fighter plane when it is not ready. It is not credible and logical for a country to buy a fighter jet when it is still being developed.
Kaan still needs extensive tests and is no where near ready as a fighter. It’s avionics, radar and structure still needs many improvements and verifications of the technologies to be used on it.
Even as a 4.5 generation plane it is not ready. Hell! Even the f120 engines’ arrival are suspect.
Domestic prototype engine manufacturing is not even started yet.
No country on earth will buy outright such an unfinished plane, no matter whoever is claiming it so!
If they said that Indonesia has been accepted as a partner in to the program who will actively help developing it and also committing to purchase 48 planes in the end. That is credible and conceivable.

Indonesia doesn’t have a very good track record. Due to non payment of their part of the Boramae project, they are at the verge of being kicked out of the program. If memory serves, they have a 7.5% stake in the program now.
They had a contract to buy SU35s from Russia. They went back on it due to Caatsa threat.
They signed a contract for Rafale purchase. Now there are news that they are cancelling it and are signing a contract for buying from Chinese stocks same number of J10Cs.
They had signed a contract with US to purchase F15EX fighters. There are news that this too is in jeopardy.

What ever contract they signed with Turkey, is not worth the paper it is written on.

And yet, none of the Jets you have mentioned is a fifth-gen fighter, also they bought KAAN with indigenous engines.
Weren't there countries who ordered F-35 before the start of serial production?
Just enjoy the news and relax.

 

[Pokemonte13]

84 months from today or from first delivery date to last delivery date

 

[Zafer]

So it is not just 48 but 60 Kaan with addition of 12 to Indonesia. I have a Turkish friend who spends half of his year in Indonesia, I bet he will be walking proud today.