Live Conflict Iran-Israel Conflict (2025)

[Rooxbar]

But why are you worried about a potential war with Israel? You are in NATO, so Israel will not attack you. Why not be friends with Israel, like the Saudis are doing?

It’s easy to be safe from Israel. As long as you are in good relations with them, there is nothing to worry about.

But if you get to the point where they want to attack you, then no amount of defense will save you. They have proven time and time again that they are extremely effective in supressing enemy defenses. Better just to get along well with them. Much safer and much easier.

We are in absolutely no way comparable to Iran, and Turks are in no way comparable to Iranians. Second of all

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There have been many books by former Israeli prime ministers and intelligence people chronicling their involvement and planning in Iraqi Kurdistan and in northern Syria as well (from late 1960s no less); our interests mostly clash with theirs. But that being said, our interests clash with Russian interests as well, hence the kind of engagement our current admin is doing against Israel (as opposed to our diplomatic maneuvering with Russia) is purely performative for their base and has very little rationality in its hastiness and open hands approach. (esp. considering oversized Jewish influence in media, entertainment industry, wall street and city of london finance circles, and above all among the political elite of Western countries)

 

[Ahlatshah]

But why are you worried about a potential war with Israel? You are in NATO, so Israel will not attack you. Why not be friends with Israel, like the Saudis are doing?

It’s easy to be safe from Israel. As long as you are in good relations with them, there is nothing to worry about.

But if you get to the point where they want to attack you, then no amount of defense will save you. They have proven time and time again that they are extremely effective in supressing enemy defenses. Better just to get along well with them. Much safer and much easier.

I dont want to be that direct but I have to say: You have no idea whatsoever about Turkiye and about Israel.

There are a lot to be said, like they have to fight somewhere, they dont want any country that capable of defend themselves in this region, their current leadership consist of bunch of fanatics and fundamentalist...

I even didnt mention about us, It is a such a topic with a looong list, I dont have time nor intent to write.

 

[contricusc]

We are in absolutely no way comparable to Iran, and Turks are in no way comparable to Iranians. Second of all

I never implied you are comparable to Iran, but this doesn’t mean that a war with Israel would not be very bad for your country. Israel has the baking of the US, so fighting them is not something to be desired.

our interests mostly clash with theirs.

This happens all the time in geopolitics, but this doesn’t mean you have to reach a point where conflict is on the table. I mean, your interests clashed with the US many times in Syria, yet you are allied with them through NATO.

As far as the Middle East go, the only solution to be a strong country is to be on the same side with Israel. Because if Israel sees you as a threat, it will work against you to destroy you. The Gulf countries seems to have realized this reality, and they are clearly willing to normalize relations with Israel, in order to be safe.

I don’t think there is any bright future as an adversary of Israel.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

I never implied you are comparable to Iran, but this doesn’t mean that a war with Israel would not be very bad for your country. Israel has the baking of the US, so fighting them is not something to be desired.



This happens all the time in geopolitics, but this doesn’t mean you have to reach a point where conflict is on the table. I mean, your interests clashed with the US many times in Syria, yet you are allied with them through NATO.

As far as the Middle East go, the only solution to be a strong country is to be on the same side with Israel. Because if Israel sees you as a threat, it will work against you to destroy you. The Gulf countries seems to have realized this reality, and they are clearly willing to normalize relations with Israel, in order to be safe.

I don’t think there is any bright future as an adversary of Israel.

But Türkiye is already strong and only gets stronger, so your point is already debunked. Listen closely, the day that Türkiye will have his OWN 5th Gen Jet in numbers will be a very bad day for the people/countries that have their eyes on Türkiye.

 

[contricusc]

There are a lot to be said, like they have to fight somewhere, they dont want any country that capable of defend themselves in this region, their current leadership consist of bunch of fanatics and fundamentalist...

They don’t seem to have any problems with Saudi Arabia or UAE getting advanced weapons. Maybe it’s because they never intend to fight them.

As a member of NATO, it would be natural for Turkey to be in good relations with Israel, since most NATO countries consider Israel to be an ally.

I think antagonizing Israel is a very misguided policy that could backfire greatly. There is nothing to gain from it, but it brings many security risks.

 

[Barry]

For all the tech and mil advancements, turkiye right now is suffering with political terrorism at every level as our "brotherly kurds" and islamists infiltrate every element of society. What use is a 5th gen jet if you end up in the situation where you have to bomb your own cities to root out these parasites and traitors?

 

[contricusc]

But Türkiye is already strong and only gets stronger, so your point is already debunked. Listen closely, the day that Türkiye will have his OWN 5th Gen Jet in numbers will be a very bad day for the people/countries that have their eyes on Türkiye.

And who are those countries? Which country wants to attack you? None of your neighbors has the military strength to fight you, so nobody will attack you regadless of having a 5th Gen Jet or not.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

And who are those countries? Which country wants to attack you? None of your neighbors has the military strength to fight you, so nobody will attack you regadless of having a 5th Gen Jet or not.

You're probably in this forum for at least a year. So you must have seen that these countries don't openly threaten Türkiye but covertly.

 

[TheInsider]

At some point, Turkiye will outgrow Israel, and the US will be too busy to commit vital assets to defend Israel. Until then, it would have been best if we had kept a low profile, but it seems this will be difficult going forward.

 

[Rooxbar]

I never implied you are comparable to Iran, but this doesn’t mean that a war with Israel would not be very bad for your country. Israel has the baking of the US, so fighting them is not something to be desired.



This happens all the time in geopolitics, but this doesn’t mean you have to reach a point where conflict is on the table. I mean, your interests clashed with the US many times in Syria, yet you are allied with them through NATO.

As far as the Middle East go, the only solution to be a strong country is to be on the same side with Israel. Because if Israel sees you as a threat, it will work against you to destroy you. The Gulf countries seems to have realized this reality, and they are clearly willing to normalize relations with Israel, in order to be safe.

I don’t think there is any bright future as an adversary of Israel.

Well they work with Israel as their short-term interests align and they don't care for long-term interests. They are afraid of their own populations and hence seek outside support. Israeli officials and analysts have been saying for the past 20 years that 'we must attack Iran'. But, since 7th of October as the Netanyahu admin has used Erdogan's posturing to consolidate his own base by disparaging our country and vilifying us, many pieces by diplomats and military analysts have been published in major Israeli papers criticizing this move and emphasizing that Turkey is not Iran and it's not strategically prudent to make an enemy of Turkey this publicly as Israel will not be able to engage Turkey as it has Iran. Therefore U.S. backing or not, the side which will back off from a conflict first is Israel and they know this.

As for the belief that "to be a strong country is to be on the same side with Israel", there are two issues with this view; first one is Saudi Arabia and UAE are anything but strong. Strength is not about gdp per capita numbers or short-term financial prospects. A quote has been widely attributed to Rashid bin Saeed Al Maktoum which says: "My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I drive a Mercedes, my son drives a Land Rover, his son will drive a Land Rover, but his son will ride a camel".

Also Israel is a maximalist nation dominated by millenarian thinking and radicalizing itself at a rapid pace (for the history of the devlopment of Israeli zeitgeist, you can read about Sparta and how that society evolved); it's a collision course we cannot avoid tbh. It can be diverted and managed with diplomatic prowess however and in this I agree that our admin's emotional populistc antagonizing repsonse should be replaced with containment, diplomatic influence, deception and short-term cooperations in cases where it can hurt us if we don't (like for reasons of F-35 procurement). Unfortunately our current admin has shown its cards and cannot adopt this approach anymore, and some of their base will also not tolerate it so it's mainly an electoral calculation for them; classic case of populism in democracies leading to short-term political gain overriding long-term national interest.

 

[Rooxbar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933917340103786770

 

[TheInsider]

The Israeli Defense Committee authorized the use of deep bunker buster tactical nukes against Iranian underground facilities. According to simulations, due to deep underground detonation and low yield of the warhead, radiation exposure above the ground will be negligible. I expect Israel to go for this route if Iran manages to inflict considerable damage to Israel's air capability.

 

[mTT]

Israel Channel 10:

"Pakistan has informed the United States that any nuclear attack on Iran will be met by a Pakistani nuclear attack on Israel."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933973381868577092

 

[Afif]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933973381868577092

Seriously? lol.

 

[mTT]

Israel and US modified F-35s to enable Iran attack without refuelling, sources say

US official says Israel used drop tanks, denying that any mid-air or land refuelling took place

www.middleeasteye.net

Israel and US modified F-35s to enable Iran attack without refuelling, sources say​

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933953960496570610

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933963106071216331

 

[Strong AI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933953960496570610

After it destroyed iranian equipment?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933963106071216331

Some things don't change.

 

[daniel92]

Rn, expect more Israeli attacks than ever before

Israel completely compromised Iran's Air Defence systems and managed to deal a heavy blow to lots of its missile launchers. If you couple that with the fact that Iran is quite large with lots of important sites spread out across the land to protect, it is no-brainer that Israeli jets are flying over Iranian airspace for more than 2.5 hours

What a joke Iran has become.

However, the recent events clearly dictated that Israel will never allow any nation in the middle east to possess nuclear weapons no matter what as it means the potential end for the jewish state. Therefore, if Iran falls, then Turkey is next on the list 100%. Erdogan reiterated his desire for nuclear weapons several times before and looking at what happened to Iran, I hope Turkey prepares itself for the day when it gets to fight Israel militarily, since at the end of the day, the greatest enemies for the Israelis in the region arent the Iranians or the Arabs but the Turks

I still remember Natenyahu stating 3 days ago that he will do the impossible to prevent the rise of a new Ottoman empire; i-e, hinting that he will never allow Turkey to grow above a certain limit which further legitimise the idea that Turkey is the next on the list after Iran

This is the whole idea which many stupid people like nasser, saddam, qaddafi, the shah failed to understand.

 

[TheInsider]

Iran started launching a new wave of ballistic missiles towards Israel.

 

[mTT]

Iran started launching a new wave of ballistic missiles towards Israel.

40 ballistic missiles