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I'm more worry about its seaworthiness. Multihull (either catamaran or Trimaran) have inherited structural complication during high sea state During calm sea multihull is great, they are fast, and very stable but in rough weather that multihull construction is serious safety liability.
Regarding to some rumor, the specification is no longer than 70 m, that surely put on this ship on your conclusion if it really go through sea state 5.

But i think difference value will be achive if the ship are large enough such as Independece Class, with 127 m long.

And i myself belive this kind of vessel only purpouse build for hit and run tactics with a short range cruise mode, kinda KCR 40 does
You can always wrap the handle with 550 paracord to give it more tactile grip though. It ain't pretty but workable.
Kinda like your statement,
"If it is works, it ain't stupid"
 

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PASSEX in the Natuna.
Now this is what Im talking about, diplomacy via Navy exercise with all the quad members but we conduct it seperatly among them. Specially its done just south of Natuna Island, tho I prefer it to be done in Norh Natuna sea/EEZ but again it might be too bold.

Good diplomacy now give our Navy more bigger ship 😁
I'm more worry about its seaworthiness. Multihull (either catamaran or Trimaran) have inherited structural complication during high sea state During calm sea multihull is great, they are fast, and very stable but in rough weather that multihull construction is serious safety liability. Anyone who said trimaran is safe or rated for this or that ought to cruising onboard along with whoever certifying the vessel into a foul weather (just the typical stormy weather around Banda Sea, Molucca Sea) if they come back alive and in one piece than we can be sure the vessel is safe, if they don't or only partially return then we will all know how safe the boat is.
I wouldnt worry much about it. Some design specially that size isnt suppose to go or not safe to go certain sea stage level. There are more area this trimaran design can perform well and I think our navy know where is the best area this baby can shine.
 

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I wouldnt worry much about it. Some design specially that size isnt suppose to go or not safe to go certain sea stage level. There are more area this trimaran design can perform well and I think our navy know where is the best area this baby can shine.
I just hope that the knowledge on the limit of the design do get translated into operational practice. Multihull is good only if it is to operate close to the coast where the sea is generally calmer. But once you go out into the open sea things get could rough pretty quick. Even in the middle of the Java Sea, sea state 3 is the norm. However, water such as Malacca Strait, the western & northern part of Karimata Strait, and Natuna Sea are generally calm and suitable for operating multihull
 

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KRI TOM -357 apprehending 7 Vietnamese flagged fishing vessels
 

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While at the same time KRI SSA-378 apprehended another two Vietnamese vessels.
 

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CBRN mitigation systems like that is rarely mentioned in specification .
 
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while the haijing 5204 is already known as notorius rascal in north natuna sea , what New Zealand air force doing there ??
EEZs are free to navigate, so the airplane is just navigating around.
 

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while the haijing 5204 is already known as notorius rascal in north natuna sea , what New Zealand air force doing there ??

EEZs are free to navigate, so the airplane is just navigating around.

+ NZ military is quite active on the international level

For example, they sent troops to Iraq to help defeat ISIS and sent their Orion near NK water top help enforced UN embargo
 

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+ NZ military is quite active on the international level

For example, they sent troops to Iraq to help defeat ISIS and sent their Orion near NK water top help enforced UN embargo
What interest me where did that NZ Orion come from? I doubt she cam all the way from NZ, perhaps butterworth?
 

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what New Zealand air force doing there ??
Legally speaking anything that fly is free to do whatever they want, because there is no such thing as "national airspace". NORMATIVELY, the only sovereignty any nation state held over any airspace is their ability to enforce their will upon that particular volume of airspace

What interest me where did that NZ Orion come from? I doubt she cam all the way from NZ, perhaps butterworth?
Most likely from WMKB (Butterworth). However, let's not discount the possibility that they were basing from either WSSS or WSAP
 

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Legally speaking anything that fly is free to do whatever they want, because there is no such thing as "national airspace". NORMATIVELY, the only sovereignty any nation state held over any airspace is their ability to enforce their will upon that
So the Air Identification Defence Zone or somewhat are the leghtened hand of above teritotial air soverignty ?

And the more strong Air Force of the Nation the more wide its Air Space Teritory(sovereignty) ?
 

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while the haijing 5204 is already known as notorius rascal in north natuna sea , what New Zealand air force doing there ??


Their only likely operation base is in Malaysia,
So the Air Identification Defence Zone or somewhat are the leghtened hand of above teritotial air soverignty ?

And the more strong Air Force of the Nation the more wide its Air Space Teritory(sovereignty) ?

Just imagine US Navy and their carrier fleets, in actual world each time such battle group passing anywhere in this world (including ours) area they Made their very own sky sovereignty over their radius of security task force area.
 

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