TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Samba]

I don't care about other projects. Was is announced SEVERAL times by officials P1 and P2 would be assembled and roll out this year, yes or no? Where are the pictures from the line? Or don't they see a reason for them anymore since there are no elections near?

The dates get pushed back every 2-4 months now. P1 and P2 supposedly SAID SO by SSB on the line, P1 was supposed to fly at the end of this year.

No pictures, contradicting statements for the last months now. Blaming "supply line" issues for delays on delays. Why was there no stocking up of critical items sources from outside the country?

If there are no signs of life in the coming months there will be delays again, and again they will use non-specific excuses on why P1 and P2 are missing.

You don't put something on the assembly line without every ready to go.

So no I don't believe the "supply-line" excuse either. Something is up and they are trying to buy time. Let's hope it is not something drastic. IMO they have issues getting their hands on the F110 needed and are trying to buy time for CAATSA to get dealt with.

Things don't work like that. According to what you say we should stop producing anything u til we get 40 F110 engines. In that case, we would have nothing in our hand next 20 years. Instead we have a plane flying and several prototypes are in production.

 

[Khagan1923]

Things don't work like that. According to what you say we should stop producing anything u til we get 40 F110 engines. In that case, we would have nothing in our hand next 20 years. Instead we have a plane flying and several prototypes are in production.

Who said about stopping production, are you high or do you have problems actually understanding what you read in english?

 

[Strong AI]

My man you can bs your way with people who might not be versed in these matters but not with me, this the second time you try to "out-argue" me in your own head and the first time you stopped responding because you had no resort to what I wrote i.e. Ukrainian engines for projects.

It was not me who said that both aircrafts are on the assembly line months ago but the president of the SSB whose words you take like it is gospel when it suits you. You don't put something on the assembly line UNLESS YOU CAN ASSEMBLE IT.

A government who published the smallest detail in 5 minute videos and dozen of pictures suddenly has lost all appetite on doing so with the pinnacle of the Turkish MIC. Meanwhile GTU we got weekly updates.

There are zero signs of a prototype that was supposed to roll out almost 3 months ago, and you wanna tell me about supply line issues said by the same person who said just months ago P1 was gonna fly together with GTU at the end of this year.

Holy Shit.

And when they do the same at the end of the year you will be here coming up with excuses while other users have serious discussion about the state of the project.

Then again some of you also believed T-929 was actually real and progressing well cause government sources were saying so while everyone with an inch of knowledge knew it was a dead project walking.

Everything you write is true, you are right, you are my idol. Every project is just for votes. Nothing exists actually, other nations achieve everything in nanoseconds. I hope i made you happy with this post. Peace and out. Love you

 

[Saithan]

Why would you compare our delays in projects from countries that actually has produced hundreds of fighterjets ?

That doesn'r make sense. SSB is losing credibility by talking with his göt.

Like I said many times before, Hürjet imo is more important even a LCA version of it. So not prioritizing it enough is a problem.

You can use Hürjet production line as means of raising more engineers and such. Who with the experience can work on KAAN and all other projects later on.

You should know Brazil sent nearly 2 million engineers to US to become aviation specialists in the past to reach their current level.

 

[Khagan1923]

Why would you compare our delays in projects from countries that actually has produced hundreds of fighterjets ?

That doesn'r make sense. SSB is losing credibility by talking with his göt.

Like I said many times before, Hürjet imo is more important even a LCA version of it. So not prioritizing it enough is a problem.

You can use Hürjet production line as means of raising more engineers and such. Who with the experience can work on KAAN and all other projects later on.

You should know Brazil sent nearly 2 million engineers to US to become aviation specialists in the past to reach their current level.

Because he has no retorts to the things I wrote so he ask big brother chatgtp to help him out.

Not single thing I raised was answered.

1. Why is the president of SSB months ago talking about two prototypes being assembled when they clearly are not.

2. Even worse why are you starting assembly when you don't even have the necessary systems to finish said assembly.

3. Why is there no sign of any of the two prototypes on the line? (Pictures and Video, don't see it as necessary when there are no elections near?)

4. Why is the GM of TAI talking about two Kaans flying THIS YEAR months ago and now suddenly P1 won't see air until Q2 2026.

5. Why are we getting new dates every 4-6 weeks?


Not a single issue I raised was answered by our friend instead he turned to big brother ChatGTP to copy and paste something for me. If this is the level of quality we have now, good luck. No wonder many of our former users have left or only visit every couple of months. Comparing it to how it was here a couple years ago is a world of difference honestly. For a lot of people this site has become a "How many reactions can I get" game.

Now we have people who get butthurt when you ask legitimate questions about officials talking out of their behind and giving contradictory details. And when those contradictions are raised they start arguing about out of context or straight up don't comprehend what they read.

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1949052209062354977

 

[Strong AI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1949052209062354977

Already signed, may it be beneficial and auspicious for both countries.
Do you have more information?

 

[Umigami]

Already signed, may it be beneficial and auspicious for both countries.
Do you have more information?

Let's wait until contract come into force before really take this seriously

 

[Strong AI]

Let's wait until contract come into force before really take this seriously

Right after the ceremony, TAI CEO stated in an short interview, the contract started today with this signing.
Or what do you mean in particular?

 

[Umigami]

Right after the ceremony, TAI CEO stated in an short interview, the contract started today with this signing.
Or what do you mean in particular?

In purchasing contract, the buyer need to pay the down payment first or something, right?

At that point, the contract finally come into forces (binding) and OEM can start to produce the goods (in this case: Kaan).

 

[Strong AI]

In purchasing contract, the buyer need to pay the down payment first or something, right?

At that point, the contract finally come into forces (binding) and OEM can start to produce the goods (in this case: Kaan).

Thanks for clarification.

 

[Sanchez]

I think it's still to early to talk about anything. Let's at least see the text of what was signed. It was dubbed a "purchase contract", which is interesting.

One point. In last month's MOU, it was mentioned that all 48 aircraft would be delivered within 120 months of contract signing. Does that mean that now we are in contract period and last Kaan will be delivered to Indonesia in July 2035? That's a pretty tight schedule.

 

[Ripley]

I think it's still to early to talk about anything. Let's at least see the text of what was signed. It was dubbed a "purchase contract", which is interesting.

One point. In last month's MOU, it was mentioned that all 48 aircraft would be delivered within 120 months of contract signing. Does that mean that now we are in contract period and last Kaan will be delivered to Indonesia in July 2035? That's a pretty tight schedule.

Indeed. Since This is not an agreement any more but a contract, let’s wait and see what’s in that contract.

 

[Strong AI]

Aselsan CEO:

"WE DROPPED OVER 100 PRODUCTS AND FOCUSED ON KAAN"

In the past few years, we discontinued over 100 products that we considered to have low added value. We shifted our focus to game-changing weapons and systems. In the field of optics and imaging, we handed over rifle scopes to partner companies and turned our attention to systems for UAVs and KAAN. We aimed to achieve what couldn't be done before. Due to embargoes, we were unable to procure certain products — now, we’ve started producing them ourselves.

Çelik Kubbe'de son durum! ASELSAN Genel Müdürü açıkladı

Ekonomi - Çelik Kubbe'nin son durumu hakkında konuşan ASELSAN Genel Müdürü Akyol, "Çelik Kubbe’nin bir kısmını teslim ettik. Bunlar kullanımda aktif. Bu adetleri yükseltmek istiyoruz. Bu sene geçen seneye göre iki katı ürün teslim edeceğiz" dedi.

ekonomi.haber7.com

 

[TheInsider]

Aselsan CEO:

"WE DROPPED OVER 100 PRODUCTS AND FOCUSED ON KAAN"

In the past few years, we discontinued over 100 products that we considered to have low added value. We shifted our focus to game-changing weapons and systems. In the field of optics and imaging, we handed over rifle scopes to partner companies and turned our attention to systems for UAVs and KAAN. We aimed to achieve what couldn't be done before. Due to embargoes, we were unable to procure certain products — now, we’ve started producing them ourselves.

Çelik Kubbe'de son durum! ASELSAN Genel Müdürü açıkladı

Ekonomi - Çelik Kubbe'nin son durumu hakkında konuşan ASELSAN Genel Müdürü Akyol, "Çelik Kubbe’nin bir kısmını teslim ettik. Bunlar kullanımda aktif. Bu adetleri yükseltmek istiyoruz. Bu sene geçen seneye göre iki katı ürün teslim edeceğiz" dedi.

ekonomi.haber7.com

He says Aselflir 600 has 40% more range and double the laser designation range compared to Aselflir-500. This level of designation range provides stand-off capability against most medium-range air defense systems.

 

[Shtr]

What about comparing with MX-25?

 

[Iskander]

Indonesia rejected all offers and seems to have finally made its choice in favor of the Turkish KAAN fighter. I have long been watching with interest, even when Turkey was only dreaming of a 5th generation fighter, what the Indonesians would choose - Rafale, KF-21 or Su-35. When Indonesia, after many years of deliberation, completely unexpectedly chose KAAN, the Russians were shocked: "What is this KAAN?! Where did it come from?! How can this be?! How can these Indonesians prefer a fighter that does not exist?!" The thing is that Russian propagandists (who are also experts) have long been assuring their audience that the Su-35 is incomparably better than the F-35 ( ), that Turkey does not have a national aviation school (in the broad sense), that without producing previous generations of fighters it is impossible to immediately produce a fifth-generation aircraft, etc. And suddenly, a bolt from the blue: out of all these French, Korean and Russian fighters, Indonesia chose ... KAAN!
Now Russian propagandists are trying to explain this inexplicable to their flock.
It is funny that the Russian author compares KAAN not with SU-57, which is supposedly a 5th generation fighter, but with SU-35, a 4th generation fighter. This is done intentionally, as if KAAN and SU-57 are simply incomparable things!
The failure to mention SU-57 is probably also due to the fact that its production has stalled. In 15 years, only about 20 units were produced.

Remember 6 years ago Putin offered Erdogan the SU-57?!

What do Russians think about KAAN?
This is an article about him. As is usually the case with Russians, it contains a lot of half-truths, propaganda and outright falsifications. But the comments are interesting.

https://en.topwar.ru/266903-su-35-ili-variant-pogoni-za-dvumja-zajcami.html

In addition to Indonesia, Egypt also rejected Russian fighters (Su-35). Then Russia offered Iran the same fighters (24 units). But Tehran, as the Russians themselves admit, wants Chinese J-10s.

 

[Turan]

Indonesia rejected all offers and seems to have finally made its choice in favor of the Turkish KAAN fighter. I have long been watching with interest, even when Turkey was only dreaming of a 5th generation fighter, what the Indonesians would choose - Rafale, KF-21 or Su-35. When Indonesia, after many years of deliberation, completely unexpectedly chose KAAN, the Russians were shocked: "What is this KAAN?! Where did it come from?! How can this be?! How can these Indonesians prefer a fighter that does not exist?!" The thing is that Russian propagandists (who are also experts) have long been assuring their audience that the Su-35 is incomparably better than the F-35 ( ), that Turkey does not have a national aviation school (in the broad sense), that without producing previous generations of fighters it is impossible to immediately produce a fifth-generation aircraft, etc. And suddenly, a bolt from the blue: out of all these French, Korean and Russian fighters, Indonesia chose ... KAAN!
Now Russian propagandists are trying to explain this inexplicable to their flock.
It is funny that the Russian author compares KAAN not with SU-57, which is supposedly a 5th generation fighter, but with SU-35, a 4th generation fighter. This is done intentionally, as if KAAN and SU-57 are simply incomparable things!
The failure to mention SU-57 is probably also due to the fact that its production has stalled. In 15 years, only about 20 units were produced.

Remember 6 years ago Putin offered Erdogan the SU-57?!

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What do Russians think about KAAN?
This is an article about him. As is usually the case with Russians, it contains a lot of half-truths, propaganda and outright falsifications. But the comments are interesting.

https://en.topwar.ru/266903-su-35-ili-variant-pogoni-za-dvumja-zajcami.html

In addition to Indonesia, Egypt also rejected Russian fighters (Su-35). Then Russia offered Iran the same fighters (24 units). But Tehran, as the Russians themselves admit, wants Chinese J-10s.

 

[NEKO]

The biggest deal in Turkiye history (at least for now), not from KSA or UAE but...
Surprise!!! Indonesia.
:v

 

[Umigami]

Right after the ceremony, TAI CEO stated in an short interview, the contract started today with this signing.
Or what do you mean in particular?

This guy say it best:

TAI TF-X / Milli Muharip Uçak MMU Kaan

These appear to be prototypes? Flight tests are expected to begin within this year, and the KARAT IRST can reportedly detect up to 100 targets and track up to 3 simultaneously.

www.secretprojects.co.uk