TR Politics

[Anastasius]

Terrorist Apo's demands.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1999733042219208886

A cunning government would pretend to agree to everything then arrest and execute every single PKK leadership figure who shows their face afterwards. But this government has about as much cunning as a goldfish.

 

[GoatsMilk]

A cunning government would pretend to agree to everything then arrest and execute every single PKK leadership figure who shows their face afterwards. But this government has about as much cunning as a goldfish.

As if Turkiye needs to give a sh*t about what the PKK want or demand. They don't like the country they can f*k off and if they break the law they can be dealt with by the state. Its that simple. Millions of the PKK supporters either came as refugees to Turkiye or a descendent from refugees. Turks need to start thinking and behaving like Turks, otherwise their going to get f'ked no different to how the brown man of the middle east has been getting f'ked since the white man found a way into the region.

Anything else is treason.

 

[nick.f76]

Speaking about the Pope and Catholics. Centuries ago the Pope and the Catholics did 1204 and after that 1453 happened. On 1452, exactly one year before the fall of Constantinople they did an official liturgy in St. Sophia where the officials and the Eastern Orthodox Church people officialy recognized the Pope as the head of the Church hoping the Western catholic people under the Pope would help us. We saw how they "helped" us. When and where they conquered parts of Greece/Byzantine empire call it however you like, they were worse than the Turks.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Speaking about the Pope and Catholics. Centuries ago the Pope and the Catholics did 1204 and after that 1453 happened. On 1452, exactly one year before the fall of Constantinople they did an official liturgy in St. Sophia where the officials and the Eastern Orthodox Church people officialy recognized the Pope as the head of the Church hoping the Western catholic people under the Pope would help us. We saw how they "helped" us. When and where they conquered parts of Greece/Byzantine empire call it however you like, they were worse than the Turks.

roman empire. No one called it the greek/byzantine empire in the era in which existed. Greeks were conquered by the Romans. After conquest the romans absolutely brutalised the greek subjects. And you guys were no innocent fish either.

 

[TR_123456]

roman empire. No one called it the greek/byzantine empire in the era in which existed. Greeks were conquered by the Romans. After conquest the romans absolutely brutalised the greek subjects. And you guys were no innocent fish either.

No,it started as part of the Roman Empire which later became the East - Roman Empire to finally the Byzantine-Empire until the Ottomans conquered it.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

No,it started as part of the Roman Empire which later became the East - Roman Empire to finally the Byzantine-Empire until the Ottomans conquered it.

Nah, "byzantine empire" is fake. The Turks conquered the Eastern Roman Empire.

 

[Yasar_TR]

If you look up in respectable history books, you will find that:

Name "Byzantine" refers to the Eastern Roman Empire (330-1453 AD), centred in Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) known for it’s distinct Greek-Speaking culture, magnificent art.

There were Greeks living in the Eastern Roman Empire as minority. Only place where Greeks in clear majority were in lands now occupied by current Greece. Otherwise Byzantine was the Eastern Roman Empire established by the Romans. As the most common language spoken among the population was Greek (It was a bit like when a Turk and an Arab meet they speak to each other in English. ), the Roman Emperor Heraclius in 620 AD declared the language of the Empire as Greek.
Before 620 AD the legal language of the empire was Latin. After losing Egypt then Levant, the core of the empire had become mostly Greek speakers among themselves, although not necessarily being Greek. .

As an example, There were around 400000 Kipchak Turks living in Karaman/Turkey in 1920. They had accepted Orthodox Christian belief. But did not speak Greek. They spoke Turkish. These were brought from eastern Europe by the Byzantines to fight for them. During population exchange at least 200000 of them were shipped to Greece.
The Byzantine empire consisted of many nationalities. Not counting the original inhabitants like Lydians, Sumerians, Hittites, Urartians, Assyrians, Celts and Persians who had amalgamated and somehow were lost in the soup; it included:
Armenians, Slavs, Arabs, Syrians, Georgians, Copts, Bulgarians, Albanians, Goths, Vlachs, and Jews. Not just Greeks.

 

[YeşilVatan]

If you look up in respectable history books, you will find that:

Name "Byzantine" refers to the Eastern Roman Empire (330-1453 AD), centred in Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) known for it’s distinct Greek-Speaking culture, magnificent art.

There were Greeks living in the Eastern Roman Empire as minority. Only place where Greeks in clear majority were in lands now occupied by current Greece. Otherwise Byzantine was the Eastern Roman Empire established by the Romans. As the most common language spoken among the population was Greek, the Roman Emperor Heraclius in 620 AD declared the language of the Empire as Greek. ( it was a bit like when a Turk and an Arab meet they speak to each other in English. )
Before 620 AD the legal language of the empire was Latin. After losing Egypt then Levant, the core of the empire had become mostly Greek speakers among themselves, although not necessarily being Greek. .

There were around 400000 Kipchak Turks living in Karaman/Turkey in 1920. They had accepted Orthodox Christian belief. But did not speak Greek. They spoke Turkish. These were brought from eastern Europe by the Byzantines to fight for them. During population exchange at least 200000 of them were shipped to Greece.
The Byzantine empire consisted of many nationalities. Not counting the original inhabitants like Lydians, Sumerians, Hittites, Urartians, Assyrians, Celts and Persians who had amalgamated and somehow were lost in the soup; it included:
Armenians, Slavs, Arabs, Syrians, Georgians, Copts, Bulgarians, Albanians, Goths, Vlachs, and Jews. Not just Greeks.

I have some people involved in Turkish DNA project, turns out Turkish speaking Orthodox Karamanlı people are genetically native Anatolian. You don't see the signature Siberian/East asian genetic admixture in their DNA at all. Our hypothesis about it is the remnant of early assimilation attempts by Karamanoğulları.

They are one of the only groups that actually have very little Turkish genetic contribution in their makeup, and nominally a "Turkish" ethnic group. Others are Gagauz, Cretan Turks, modern day Turks of Rize/Trabzon (east of Şalpazarı). Other nominally Turkish ethnic groupings have an unmistakeable trace to Turkoman migrators. Mind you, this is not a valid cause for "excommunication" of those groups from Turkishness.

It is pretty rare for an ethnic group to have very little genetic connection to their cultural forebears. It requires some unique circumstances. As chance would have it, Cypriot Greeks, Pontic Greeks and Greeks from inner anatolia are among those groups, as they have little to no genetic connection to Greeks of Homeros and Thucydides. Modern Hungarians have less than %5 Magyar migrator ancestry.

There are a few examples like this, but the general rule is a cultural shift requires a significant inflow of migration.