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Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler:

"With the agreement we have made with the UK, we are purchasing 20 newly manufactured Eurofighter aircraft. The Eurofighter aircraft to be manufactured will enter the inventory as follows: 6 in 2030, 8 in 2031, and 6 in 2032.

In addition, our negotiations with both Qatar and Oman for the supply of Eurofighter aircraft are continuing positively. The Eurofighters we will acquire from Qatar are ready-to-fly aircraft with very few hours flown.

Our Qatari brothers are showing great understanding. We will acquire these aircraft along with ammunition and materials from Qatar. The aircraft we will acquire from Oman are also aircraft with very few flight hours. They are stored in hangars.

The aircraft to be procured from Oman need to be modernized with AESA radar, METEOR launch capability, and up-to-date avionics systems. We expect the modernization of the 12 aircraft to be completed by 2028.

Our pilots at the Air Component Command in Qatar are constantly working alongside Qatari pilots. We will begin training Eurofighter pilots and maintenance personnel in both Qatar and Oman as soon as possible.

We also do not find the second-hand discussions regarding the purchase of these aircraft to be accurate. Even in Europe, many countries continue to procure and use surplus aircraft.

We are acquiring Eurofighter aircraft together with Meteor missiles. We will be able to use our own national software and ammunition in these aircraft. In this process, we will also develop something better than the Meteor missile, and if they want, we will sell it to them."
Qatar should do us one more good one and hand over all of the 24 EF in their inventory. That is what good friends do for each other right?
 

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Minister Güler:


"We are acquiring Eurofighter aircraft along with Meteor missiles.
We will be able to use our own national software and ammunition on these aircraft.
During this process, we will also develop something better than the Meteor missile, and if they want, we will sell it to them."

Well this is the first official statement I believe that we indeed will be able to integrate our own missiles and bombs on Eurofighter.
 

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It must said, that Qatar and Oman deserve a great praise.
Living in those geographies and getting rid of od 2 squadrons of their premier air assets is truly noble act.
Probably, even the prices were as reasonable as possible.
 

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It must said, that Qatar and Oman deserve a great praise.
Living in those geographies and getting rid of od 2 squadrons of their premier air assets is truly noble act.
Probably, even the prices were as reasonable as possible.
Oman can't maintain and operate its fleet, those fighters are useless for them.
After Iran got dealt a huge blow only security risk of Qatar is Israel. By giving weapons to us, they are indirectly managing that risk. As they can't directly confront Israel even when Israel hits their capital.
 

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Oman can't maintain and operate its fleet, those fighters are useless for them.
After Iran got dealt a huge blow only security risk of Qatar is Israel. By giving weapons to us, they are indirectly managing that risk. As they can't directly confront Israel even when Israel hits their capital.
I understand that, but nevertheless, it is still comedian act. Another thing is , I believe, both Qatari and Omani air forces will intensify their training with THK , mostly on their own costs. That is in my opinion very very important thing. Hopefully RAF too.
 

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It must said, that Qatar and Oman deserve a great praise.
Living in those geographies and getting rid of od 2 squadrons of their premier air assets is truly noble act.
Probably, even the prices were as reasonable as possible.
Oman must have made some kind of protection deal with Türkiye,similar to the one Qatar made.
 

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Solid delivery plan. The new production ones will take a long time, but Qatari fighters could arrive as soon as next year and 2028 for Aesa modernized Omani fighters, that's pretty good. If we get 24 by 2029, further deliveries of the remaining 20 year by year is Ok
 

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First of all, I checked some of the latest orders for T5 Eurofighters and all of them have their deliveries starting from 2030, so, that's pretty much going according to plan. I checked the prices as well while looking at them and again, they are comparable, too.

Second, if we are going to be able to integrate our own weapons, that raises some interesting questions. This diagram seems to show the latest payload options for Eurofighter:

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For me, the most important question is, how much can we play around with this?

For example, what's the load limit of hard points under the carriage? Meteor is 190 kg, 3.65 metre long and its diameter is almost 180 mm. Can it be pushed to carry a 230 kg missile with 230 mm diameter? Because if it can, that would mean our EFs can fly with 6 EF-230 ballistic missile (Ef variant of UAV-230, obviously) and that would give them a pretty good ground strike capability. If not, can we make a, say, EF-180 and use it instead, because I think people in Roketsan can do that in their sleep.

Or, can we build a pod for Eren and use it instead of Brimstone? It is lighter and thinner than Brimstone, albeit a bit longer. For the same weight, one could have 4 Eren in it, so EF could strike from 100+ km instead of 60 (with the new version of Brimstone).

It'll be fun to watch what we can do with EF.
 

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There were rumors regarding this but nothing official of course.

Turdef piece from last week is "official" enough as it's a written response from UK embassy. But nothing signed so far. "We are okay with this" and "It costs 500 million to integrate and certify all these weapons and will take 2 years from the start of this agreement" are different things after all.
 
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