TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

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[Fuzuli NL]

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Just don't post anything from "Grok". Isn't it obvious?

 

[TR_123456]

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[Kaan Azman]

Yarr harr harr and here we are, Naval Gökbey, this time with repositioned stuff, considering fuselage sonobuoy launchers

 

[Saithan]

Light weight torpedo ? They still weight quite a bit, so wouldn't it make more sende to have them under the hul ?

 

[Sanchez]

Light weight torpedo ? They still weight quite a bit, so wouldn't it make more sende to have them under the hul ?

Orka is planned to weigh 220kg. Those stub wings can handle that weight. That tracks with all other light weight naval helicopters as well.

Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

In long term, Gökbey not only isn't ready but it isn't even enough and T925 exist only on paper yet, we can't wait for them. We should've made a deal for AgustWestland's Merlin and AW149 ages ago and started production already at least we could've had 8 and 15 tonne helicopters (for TF2000) in...

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[Kaan Azman]

In case y'all are worried about weight, AW159 which is literally in the same weight class with the same type of engines can comfortably carry two torpedoes or even 20 Martlet missiles

 

[Sanchez]

T625 concluded its cold weather tests in Kiruna, Sweden at -25 degrees. Interestingly, "TC-HLR" could be a new prototype, I don't think we ever saw this registry before. Previous 4 prototypes were orange/yellow and then blue P0 HLP, blue P1 HLI, gendarme livery P2 HLV and the black P3 HLH. This HLR is either a re-registry, or a new prototype.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1889962501946695774

P0 TC-HLP in high altitude flights.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2014674061054406816

 

[Zafer]

Foreign certification of aircraft is an arduous process which may not end up successful as the certifying bodies are institutions of established aircraft manufacturing countries. Every new aircraft they certify will take away business from them. It is a conflict of interests and they may drag the process forever asking for harder and harder specs and if you are not a capable hardy company you give up. China is up to getting their passenger planes certified and who knows how it will end.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Turkish Aerospace Industries (TUSAŞ) General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu said in his speech that they aim to obtain civil certification for the GÖKBEY helicopter within the next few months.

Stating that they have signed serial production agreements for a total of 83 GÖKBEY helicopters, Demiroğlu noted that the fifth helicopter has been delivered, and that they aim to deliver one helicopter per month this year and two helicopters per month next year.

Milli savaş uçağı KAAN’da test uçuşu için tarih verildi

Haber 7 - Milli savaş uçağı KAAN prototipiyle test uçuşlarına başlamayı hedeflediklerini vurgulayan (TUSAŞ) Genel Müdürü Mehmet Demiroğlu, geçen ihracatta 1 milyar dolar üzerine çıktıklarını, hedeflerinin bu yıl 1,5 milyar dolar olacağını açıkladı.

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In reality, there are actually 26 Gokbey helicopters to be produced as per what has been produced to date.
57 additional units ordered by the TR Navy are going to be navalised versions. They will have to be redesigned and produced in accordance with certain specifications whereby the helicopter, its engines and avionics will be resistant to sea water and salt. Also due to having to land on ships that are bopping up and down, helicopter’s super structure and landing gears will have to be more robust, rotor blades to be foldable.
So as well as Tusas, TEI too will have to redesign the engines to be suitable for military use and sea worthy.

NB
These 57 units need not to be subjected to the same certification conditions as the civilian use helicopters.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Any idea what class that new helicopter is going to be

 

[Yasar_TR]

TUSAŞ's T925 Utility Helicopter Prototype Breaks Cover | TURDEF

A photo including the prototype of TUSAŞ T925 12-ton utility helicopter alongside T929 was shared by the Turkish MP Derya Yanık, who visited TUSAŞ facilities.

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T-925 12 ton class utility helicopter has finally broken cover. Now we know what it looks like.
Shame about the powerplant. It really needs a western 3000HP class engine to do it justice and also really needs a confirmation that a navalised version is in the pipeline from an official source. (The LHD and Mugem plus Tepe Class, Bayraktar Class LSTs and the new frigates all will need navalised utility helicopters)

 

[Pokemonte13]

I think that’s just the mock up that was shown during teknofest last year.

 

[TR_123456]

TUSAŞ's T925 Utility Helicopter Prototype Breaks Cover | TURDEF

A photo including the prototype of TUSAŞ T925 12-ton utility helicopter alongside T929 was shared by the Turkish MP Derya Yanık, who visited TUSAŞ facilities.

turdef.com

T-925 12 ton class utility helicopter has finally broken cover. Now we know what it looks like.
Shame about the powerplant. It really needs a western 3000HP class engine to do it justice and also really needs a confirmation that a navalised version is in the pipeline from an official source. (The LHD and Mugem plus Tepe Class, Bayraktar Class LSTs and the new frigates all will need navalised utility helicopters)

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They need to work on a 3000HP engine or France(Safran Aneto-1k/RTM322?) could sell since relations are improving?

 

[boredaf]

They need to work on a 3000HP engine or France(Safran Aneto-1k/RTM322?) could sell since relations are improving?

I wouldn't trust French cunts with anything other than them acting like cunts somewhere along the way. If we are going to think about doing something with foreigners on this it should be Italy, Spain or UK, at least they've been far more consistent and trustworthy these last few years.

Or, alternatively, we need to start going heavy on VTOL drones for at least ISR missions from the ships. For example, if Titra Alpin's supply chain is secure, we should start getting them in numbers to put 2 on our ships at least. 1 of them can carry Aselflir 500 and Fulmar 200 while the other could carry Antidot 2 U/S and listen for radars, or, if Aselsan sonobuoy launcher for UAVs (which is apparently close to being tested) is light enough it can carry several sonobuoys.

Better yet, someone needs to invent a time machine, go back in time about 10 to 15 years and slap some sense into people responsible for procurement about the abysmal state of our naval helicopters.

 

[TR_123456]

I wouldn't trust French cunts with anything other than them acting like cunts somewhere along the way. If we are going to think about doing something with foreigners on this it should be Italy, Spain or UK, at least they've been far more consistent and trustworthy these last few years.

Or, alternatively, we need to start going heavy on VTOL drones for at least ISR missions from the ships. For example, if Titra Alpin's supply chain is secure, we should start getting them in numbers to put 2 on our ships at least. 1 of them can carry Aselflir 500 and Fulmar 200 while the other could carry Antidot 2 U/S and listen for radars, or, if Aselsan sonobuoy launcher for UAVs (which is apparently close to being tested) is light enough it can carry several sonobuoys.

Better yet, someone needs to invent a time machine, go back in time about 10 to 15 years and slap some sense into people responsible for procurement about the abysmal state of our naval helicopters.

The thing is as with other projects,the second they know we can design and produce ourselves they are willing to sell without strings attached.
As with other projects we can just buy until our engines are ready.
Times have changed so did attitudes against us,they know we can and will so they adapt,trust is no more an issue.
Drones are good but not good enough,we need those naval helicopters fast.

 

[Kaan Azman]

Even if the french are friendly I wouldn't trust my dog with them, let alone engines.

On the RUAV part yeah, we at least should have a turboshaft powered thing at this point. But I'd rather have a STOL cargo UAV.

 

[Sanchez]

Even if the french are friendly I wouldn't trust my dog with them, let alone engines.

If this was navy or air force; i could see a future play. I actually do think that France and Turkey will get closer in the next decade.

But this is army and army actually does have experience with French engines on attack helicopters from the first and second ATAK programs. They won't get near a French engine unless French are offering full ToT and local production to SSB. So basically won't happen.

 

[Oublious]

congrats, EASA certification is finished.

 

[Bmx98]

congrats, EASA certification is finished.

Finally, I had a hunch the westernoids were purposely not going to give the damn certification. The bastards did drag it as much as possible though