Defence Fair SAHA EXPO 2026

[boredaf]

1. Pic Kalkan 100g on toyota

Is there anything that hasn't been put on a Toyota truck at this point? Few more years and it is going to have a shout at being the most versatile vehicle ever.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Aselsan Uav interceptor likely autonomous (detect and intercept all in one)

 

[Strong AI]

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Aselsan Uav interceptor likely autonomous (detect and intercept all in one)

I wonder why they put AVCI from Skydagger there? Does that mean it is compatible?

 

[boredaf]

I wonder why they put AVCI from Skydagger there? Does that mean it is compatible?

Are those Skydagger drones tough? It doesn't look like theirs to me:

https://www.skydagger.com/en/products/interceptor-ailesi/avci-drone

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2040514755589537799

Almost all interceptors drones look somewhat similar right now at any rate.

 

[Strong AI]

Are those Skydagger drones tough? It doesn't look like theirs to me:

https://www.skydagger.com/en/products/interceptor-ailesi/avci-drone

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2040514755589537799

Almost all interceptors drones look somewhat similar right now at any rate.

 

[boredaf]

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Bloody hell, I missed the Waldo lol well spotted mate. It is weird that it is just sitting there by itself if it is compatible, I would've expected Aselsan to show at least one of them launched on their mock-up as well.

 

[GoatsMilk]

This is the only thing that doesn't make sense and has me scratching my head. If the aim is to show others we're this and that. why the hell reveal for all the world to see?

If it were real then it makes sense to show it. Take the context of something like syria, it creates a much bigger deterrent against the isrealis as Turkiye expands her footprint and holds off war, which is better for us in the short term. Its also a message to the french that they are within are striking range and such a missile alludes to "nuclear warheads". Ripley pretty much explained this.

So if it were real, then it makes sense.

The only other thing i can think is that the project is very real, but what they have shown is fake. What do i mean by this, Turks are saying to them we have these capabilities, but at the same time by showing an unrelated fake/mockup they are not giving away the real capabilities.

The danger of course that this is just a typical iranian style stunt designed for domestic consumption.

Since we don't have a history of these sorts of mega stunts, its not entirely clear to me what is going on.

 

[Zafer]

Making bigger claims than what is actually being delievered do not create any additional political gains.
Who cares if you can hit at 6000 km range when all your opponents are within 3000 km range.

 

[Strong AI]

From whom?

An informative explanation that will put an end to the nonsense is coming.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051955664272912799

Officials from the Ministry of National Defense stated that the necessary explanations will be provided regarding the claims circulating about the GÜÇHAN TURBOFAN JET ENGINE.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051998526792487231

 

[Turkic]

Making bigger claims than what is actually being delievered do not create any additional political gains.
Who cares if you can hit at 6000 km range when all your opponents are within 3000 km range.

A ballistic missile with 3000km range can only hit its targets at low-mid-supersonic speeds because its engines will be shut off mid flight. A 6000km range ballistic missile can still have enough fuel allowing it to be high-supersonic or low-hypersonic in the terminal phase for the same range target. It's an important deterrant against countries like Israel who has capable ABM systems.

 

[Zafer]

A ballistic missile with 3000km range can only hit its targets at low-mid-supersonic speeds because its engines will be shut off mid flight. A 6000km range ballistic missile can still have enough fuel allowing it to be high-supersonic or low-hypersonic in the terminal phase for the same range target. It's an important deterrant against countries like Israel who has capable ABM systems.

The bigger the missile the more the speed but you can have more of the smaller missiles to shoot as they are small and easier to handle and all, you need variety.

 

[KAAN]

The UDMH+N2O4 liquid propellant has been developed and has entered mass production.


It has been in the works for over a decade.


The rocket engine's design was finalized last year.


The 3-ton warhead shares the same explosive filler as GAZAP and is about 10 times heavier.


The MOD (likely tomorrow) will hold a press conference. This is probably the announcement we've been waiting for all morning.


This information comes from the interviews the R&D Director of the Ministry of National Defense, Nilüfer Kuzulu, gave to the national press.

 

[mTT]

Baykar has signed an agreement with Indonesian company PT Republikorp for the Bayraktar KIZILELMA.

Under the agreement, 12 Bayraktar KIZILELMA Unmanned Combat Aircraft will be delivered to Indonesia starting in 2028.

We hope this agreement will contribute to further deepening the strategic defense industry cooperation between Türkiye and Indonesia.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2052030977552073064

 

[Strong AI]

The UDMH+N2O4 liquid propellant has been developed and has entered mass production.


It has been in the works for over a decade.


The rocket engine's design was finalized last year.


The 3-ton warhead shares the same explosive filler as GAZAP and is about 10 times heavier.


The MOD (likely tomorrow) will hold a press conference. This is probably the announcement we've been waiting for all morning.


This information comes from the interviews the R&D Director of the Ministry of National Defense, Nilüfer Kuzulu, gave to the national press.

Dünyanın konuştuğu rokete kadın eli değdi. Yıldırımhan nasıl geliştirildi, etkisi ne olacak? | NTV Haber

Türkiye'nin ilk kıtalararası balistik füzesini geliştiren ekibin lideri Nilüfer Kuzulu, NTV yayınında Yıldırımhan'a ilişkin ayrıntıları anlattı.

www.ntv.com.tr

 

[Turkic]

The bigger the missile the more the speed but you can have more of the smaller missiles to shoot as they are small and easier to handle and all, you need variety.

You get the concept. TAF will decide the variety. All has their own uses.

 

[AlterUnd]

The UDMH+N2O4 liquid propellant has been developed and has entered mass production.


It has been in the works for over a decade.


The rocket engine's design was finalized last year.


The 3-ton warhead shares the same explosive filler as GAZAP and is about 10 times heavier.


The MOD (likely tomorrow) will hold a press conference. This is probably the announcement we've been waiting for all morning.


This information comes from the interviews the R&D Director of the Ministry of National Defense, Nilüfer Kuzulu, gave to the national press.

This is the second biggest piece of BS of the fair, after the 42,000 lbf turbofan aero-engine. The extent to which this is the case is such that it undermines the reputation of the Turkish defence industry, rendering it a subject of mockery on the global stage to such a degree that it causes me to feel humiliated.

The MoD R&D department has hardly any personnel who are qualified to run this project over the "past" decade.

The MoD, via its R&D department, is jeopardising the image that the Turkish defence industry has built up over decades of hard work and dedication.

Yet, despite all, many professionals refrain from stating the fact that, technically it is a greater BS than it seems to be.

Anyone who backs the claims of the MoD's R&D department or takes part in these hollow propaganda projects is no different in my eyes to a traitor.

 

[Strong AI]

The MoD R&D department has hardly any personnel who are qualified to run this project over the "past" decade.

Can you please explain? Do they list their personnel on platforms like LinkedIn?

 

[boredaf]

The UDMH+N2O4 liquid propellant has been developed and has entered mass production.


It has been in the works for over a decade.


The rocket engine's design was finalized last year.


The 3-ton warhead shares the same explosive filler as GAZAP and is about 10 times heavier.


The MOD (likely tomorrow) will hold a press conference. This is probably the announcement we've been waiting for all morning.


This information comes from the interviews the R&D Director of the Ministry of National Defense, Nilüfer Kuzulu, gave to the national press.

Yeah, right. Until they show a proper test footage, with its hit included, their word means nothing.

 

[Yasar_TR]

A ballistic missile with 3000km range can only hit its targets at low-mid-supersonic speeds because its engines will be shut off mid flight. A 6000km range ballistic missile can still have enough fuel allowing it to be high-supersonic or low-hypersonic in the terminal phase for the same range target. It's an important deterrant against countries like Israel who has capable ABM systems.

Not quite right explanation I am afraid.
As per @Zafer has stated, the bigger the mass at terminal stage the faster the missile hits it’s target

If you check the terminal velocity formula:

The cross section of the missile is important too. More perpendicular the missile approaches the better as it would decrease it’s silhouette.
As a generalisation for a ballistic missile, 60-70%of its mass is fuel. When the missile is in it’s ballistic downward motion it will have depleted it’s fuel

if you fire a 6000km range missile to a target that is 3000km away. You fire it at a more steep angle. It still depletes it’s fuel.

 

[Strong AI]

Yeah, right. Until they show a proper test footage, with its hit included, their word means nothing.

I mean it is really hard to believe, because it came out of the blue and there are other obvious reasons. But that woman doesn't seem like selling dreams. Here is an interview with her from last IDEF about NEB.