Defence Fair SAHA EXPO 2026

[GoatsMilk]

Actually makes sense when you think about the past few weeks. Von der Layen blunder, Greece up the ante encouraged by EU and Israel, Israel systematically defaming Turkey and painting it as the next evil enemy of the West.
My guess, they, in a very amateurish fashion, staged this farce.


And here’s some reaction from one certain actor

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051736183542263813

Surely Isreal and others will know its a farce. Likewise Isreal will use it to beat the war drums that Turkiye is indeed a threat. No different to how a small arab nation like iraq was turned into a massive threat for the united states.

Dumb stunt to pull and in the long run it works to damage the credibility of the entire defence industry that had built up an exceptional status globally.

We go down this "iran" route where our people are so easily fooled that any piece of shit can be put in front of them and they rejoice and we will find ourselves big losers like the iranians find themselves today.

 

[TurkWolf]

And here’s some reaction from one certain actor

Did this cross my mind. Maybe it's some veiled message to Israel or others? I mean, it's the only explanation I can think of.
But, deep down I am hoping we're playing some sort of 4D Chess and we do have something to surprise but doing this cringe show into thinking we're being Iran 2?
I am clutching at straws I guess.. but who knows.

 

[Pilatino]

Guys, I honestly think MSB R&D is nothing more than an Iranian-style, shamelessly immoral "initiative" cooked up just to harvest votes from confused electors. I really don't know if they needed to go this far; last year, they showed up with similarly "interesting" and arguably irrelevant products from completely unrelated fields of expertise.

When I visited their booth to ask for information, the guy there had the nerve to tell me they were working "quietly and behind the scenes." I am truly ashamed on behalf of the decision-makers who for whatever reason are willing to risk casting a shadow over the institutions and individuals who actually put in the sweat and hard work, and by extension, the entire country. As a citizen, I’m beyond frustrated at being treated like a fool by fools, and I sincerely hope this is the last year we see this.

CHANGE MY MIND, (Please?)...


P.S. Not to forget, while the questions in the public's mind are obvious, there isn't a peep from those funded, so-called "media monkeys" who blast news on X and every other platform the second a public institution does a launch. For God's sake, step up and ask about these contradictions if it’s a "secret project," what is it doing at an expo? If the cards are on the table, then why all this mystery? I’d say at least say something subtle to put people's minds at ease, but it seems there's nothing to say! And when you write about these things, those jobless frauds even monitor the forums just to block you on X.

 

[TurkWolf]

if it’s a "secret project," what is it doing at an expo?

This is the only thing that doesn't make sense and has me scratching my head. If the aim is to show others we're this and that. why the hell reveal for all the world to see?

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

MSB AR-GE is like a state-owned version of STM, but even more project oriented rather than manufacturing based. So in other words, MSB AR-GE doesn't build stuff. If this ICBM is indeed ready, it's the product of Roketsan, TÜBITAK, Aselsan, etc. MSB AR-GE oversees the project, pumps resources into research and relays TSKs requirements to these companies. It seems to have been set up for highly strategic projects.

That is the gist of it. Now if you ask me for the authenticity of either the engine or the ICBM, I can't really reveal anything.

 

[boredaf]

This is the only thing that doesn't make sense and has me scratching my head. If the aim is to show others we're this and that. why the hell reveal for all the world to see?

That's the only thing that doesn't make any sense about these so-called "projects" to you?

 

[Zafer]

No, the purpose of military factories and shipyards is production. I think you forgot that Asfat is affiliated with the Ministry of National Defense.

Yes for manufacturing but no for R&D.

 

[Zafer]

Seems to me that MSB Arge is a project of the current MOD and it punches above its head and mostly gives political messages.

MOD said "There won't be hesitation to use these weapons". While it is also a technical matter as the weapons are not of the dirty type hence they can be used more freely there certainly is a political tone to it too.

Are they useful, they can be if they focus on their credibility, like not showing off when they haven't achieved usable results and focusing on one or two problems rather than many.

It is more like Trump style rather than Iran style, still punching above their weight but can make it work under favorable conditions.

 

[Iskander]

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"Türkiye unveiled its first Yıldırımhan ICBM with a range of up to 6 km.

Türkiye unveiled its first intercontinental ballistic missile rocket Yıldırımhan (Yıldırımhan) at the SAHA 2026 exhibition. The missile has a range of 6000 km and can carry a warhead weighing up to three tons.

The new missile was reportedly designed by the Turkish Ministry of National Defense's Research and Development Center.
Turkish Defense Minister Yaşar Güler, who attended the presentation, called the missile a powerful deterrent and said the country would use it if necessary.

What is known about the rocket?

According to the technical specifications presented at the stand, Yıldırımhan is capable of reaching speeds from 9 to 25 Machs, which classifies it as hypersonic. armsThis speed, according to the developers, allows the missile to overcome existing systems. Defense and about.

The rocket is equipped with four liquid-fueled nitrogen tetroxide engines.

The development of a domestically produced intercontinental ballistic missile is a significant step forward for Turkey in the development of its defense industry, placing the country among a select group of countries possessing such technology. With a stated range of 6000 km, the missile is capable of reaching targets across most of Europe, Africa, and East Asia.

It's worth noting that Yıldırımhan wasn't the only significant innovation Turkey presented at the exhibition. Turkish companies also showcased a number of new systems, including loitering munitions, attack unmanned aerial vehicles, and naval surface vehicles"

https://en.topwar.ru/282203-turcija-predstavila-svoju-pervuju-mbr-yldrmhan-s-dalnostju-do-6-tysjach-km.html

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[Bogeyman]

Yes for manufacturing but no for R&D.

ARMERKOM is considered the brain of the Navy's R&D. The Gölcük shipyard is also like that. The Air Force also underwent a similar restructuring in recent years. I saw a picture of their makeshift R&D building.

 

[Pokemonte13]

1. Pic Kalkan 100g on toyota
2. Pic Trailer Gökberk (lower output)
3. Pic Larger Ejderha with Acar 300g
4. Pic Ihtar with 4 Aura 200g
5. Pic Sahin different versions with radar(the smaller one is probably for vehicles)

 

[boredaf]

1. Pic Kalkan 100g on toyota

Is there anything that hasn't been put on a Toyota truck at this point? Few more years and it is going to have a shout at being the most versatile vehicle ever.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Aselsan Uav interceptor likely autonomous (detect and intercept all in one)

 

[boredaf]

I wonder why they put AVCI from Skydagger there? Does that mean it is compatible?

Are those Skydagger drones tough? It doesn't look like theirs to me:

SKYDAGGER - The Future as You Imagine

SKYDAGGER - The future as you imagine. Drones, cameras, and accessories.

www.skydagger.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2040514755589537799

Almost all interceptors drones look somewhat similar right now at any rate.

 

[boredaf]

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Bloody hell, I missed the Waldo lol well spotted mate. It is weird that it is just sitting there by itself if it is compatible, I would've expected Aselsan to show at least one of them launched on their mock-up as well.

 

[GoatsMilk]

This is the only thing that doesn't make sense and has me scratching my head. If the aim is to show others we're this and that. why the hell reveal for all the world to see?

If it were real then it makes sense to show it. Take the context of something like syria, it creates a much bigger deterrent against the isrealis as Turkiye expands her footprint and holds off war, which is better for us in the short term. Its also a message to the french that they are within are striking range and such a missile alludes to "nuclear warheads". Ripley pretty much explained this.

So if it were real, then it makes sense.

The only other thing i can think is that the project is very real, but what they have shown is fake. What do i mean by this, Turks are saying to them we have these capabilities, but at the same time by showing an unrelated fake/mockup they are not giving away the real capabilities.

The danger of course that this is just a typical iranian style stunt designed for domestic consumption.

Since we don't have a history of these sorts of mega stunts, its not entirely clear to me what is going on.

 

[Zafer]

Making bigger claims than what is actually being delievered do not create any additional political gains.
Who cares if you can hit at 6000 km range when all your opponents are within 3000 km range.

 

[Turkic]

Making bigger claims than what is actually being delievered do not create any additional political gains.
Who cares if you can hit at 6000 km range when all your opponents are within 3000 km range.

A ballistic missile with 3000km range can only hit its targets at low-mid-supersonic speeds because its engines will be shut off mid flight. A 6000km range ballistic missile can still have enough fuel allowing it to be high-supersonic or low-hypersonic in the terminal phase for the same range target. It's an important deterrant against countries like Israel who has capable ABM systems.

 

[Zafer]

A ballistic missile with 3000km range can only hit its targets at low-mid-supersonic speeds because its engines will be shut off mid flight. A 6000km range ballistic missile can still have enough fuel allowing it to be high-supersonic or low-hypersonic in the terminal phase for the same range target. It's an important deterrant against countries like Israel who has capable ABM systems.

The bigger the missile the more the speed but you can have more of the smaller missiles to shoot as they are small and easier to handle and all, you need variety.

 

[KAAN]

The UDMH+N2O4 liquid propellant has been developed and has entered mass production.


It has been in the works for over a decade.


The rocket engine's design was finalized last year.


The 3-ton warhead shares the same explosive filler as GAZAP and is about 10 times heavier.


The MOD (likely tomorrow) will hold a press conference. This is probably the announcement we've been waiting for all morning.


This information comes from the interviews the R&D Director of the Ministry of National Defense, Nilüfer Kuzulu, gave to the national press.