Exactly this; noone intelligent follows mario nawfal of all people. there are not "real" people.
That is usually the case if foreign components are included, isn't it? I'm not sure that Martin Baker, for example, can agree to supply ejection seats with no export restriction. I think the UK government decides which countries can receive aircraft with MB ejection seats fitted.
Its true but they would then just make their own seat so not really worth it. The only critical component is the engine and even if its not delivered they would just continue developing it so the airframes that would come with domestic engines would not lack anything.
I would think that Turkiye could develop an ejection seat. One that performed as well as an MB seat and failed as seldom as an MB seat? Not for a very long time.
If production F110 engines do not get delivered in time the TF35k engines can be employed on a fast track and there would not be any delay in Kaan production. If the F110 engines get delivered then TF35k engine can wait until 2029-2030 to be used in flight tests and 2031 in production of later block Kaan batches.
Flying KAAN with uncertified engines would make it an experimental aircraft, not a production aircraft, wouldn't it? I don't know but I would would think KAAN would definitely not ready for air force service.
It is a fighter engine you don't need certification for it. When the air force thinks the plane checks all the boxes for metrics that are important to them that is certification enough. Even the FAA of USA had left the certification of Boeing 737 max passenger plane to the Being company ironically.
true you dont need civilian certification like with TS1400 but it still needs to fulfill the requirements and acceptance test of the TurAf and they wont use the engine unless its finished and safe.
Of course, they can possibly delegate some of the test work to TAI test pilots too.
The source is bloody Torygraph, those twats would say anything to make Labour look bad. This isn't worth taking seriously.
This is what some Brit pundits have been saying today indeed, but British procurement and development issues are pretty much endemic. Would you be surprised? I wouldn't. But we need to say, this is not UK stopping development or anything like that; it's them confirming they are not expecting deliveries of the jets until late 2030s.
I think Koreans should be counted but they have a subsystem dependency problem (engines afaik). They don't really seem to mind though.
The thing some are missing is we already have some spare engines, idk how many but after we are done with the engines on prototypes like the P0, P1 and P2 we can use them for 3 production B10 aircraft, we could also use our own spares we bought 48 engines with peace of Onyx 4, we are buying another 48 with Peace of Onyx 5 30 engines from PoO 4 are installed and 18 spares, and 40 engines from PoO will be installed with 8 spares thats 13 aircraft, and 10 engines were received for prototypes we can use 6 of them after a testing of those airframes are done until 2028 (P0, P1 and P2) if we get done with testing of those prototypes (P0 is already done) that would make it 16 aircraft that is pretty close to the planned 20 aircraft i would like hearing you guyses thoughts on this too.
F16 engines are supposed to be single engines so their usability on Kaan is questionable. We can probably make like 10 Kaan with available engines. It does bring an initial capability but our best interest lies in bringing the TF35k engine into the picture. I think the ability of the US making and delivering some of the stuff like engines and radars and everything that uses critical minerals will become questionable for the next half decade. Remembering the F35 deliveries without radars they may not be able to deliver engines either. Countries will probably want to keep supplies for themselves rather than selling them to others in the same way they saved vaccines for themselves during the Covid-19 pandemic. So nothing can be assured in the next decade. We can only make backup plans like going back to earlier generation technologies that do not require the unavailable rare materials and supplies or making few of the products that rely on them.
the engines of our f16 are not usable on kaan no matter what you do. We have enough engines for our prototypes. Apg 85 has delays because its to big for the f35 not because of production delays.
