Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

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Iranian sources report ballistic missiles were launched from several locations:

* At least 4 missiles from Kermanshah
* At least 6 missiles from Tabriz
* At least 3 missiles from Urmia
* Launches were also observed in Karaj, Isfahan, and Qom


A senior Iranian official, speaking to Reuters, said:

Iran will respond to any Israeli attack with greater force.


Trump to Fox News:

“What I would suggest to Iran: You’ve shot your missiles, that’s enough.

Get back to the table and make a deal.”
 

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Well over 50 MQ9 Reaper drones have been shot down during Iran and Yemen war.
Iran alone is presumed to have brought down nearly 20% of US MQ9 inventory.

This is what happens when you push a drone that is slow and incapable of defending itself in to enemy territory.

Same would be the result for our Akinci if we try to treat it like a fighter jet. In fact it could be worse. Since US did know the limitations of their drones.

If a country like Iran and Yemen without effective airforce and diminished AD capability can down so many UCAVs, a country with a modern airforce and AD will devastate drones like MQ9 (or our Akinci).
Fitting expensive Aesa radars (Probably more than 4 to 5 million dollars) to these planes is not going to change much. As soon as they are inside enemy airspace they will be vulnerable. They are only useful and safe in an attacking posture, if they are at stand off distances.

These drones can hardly operate above 25000ft. If they go too high they can not carry enough munitions and their endurance suffers. So if you want them to stay long in air and carry decent amount of payload, they are at vulnerable altitudes. If they are to operate under cloud cover, then it is almost like a suicide mission.

But US uses them for intelligence as well and it seems, can afford to lose them.
 

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Iran launched another missile attack on Israel on June 7. The missile strike was the first since the ceasefire took effect in April. Iran claimed the attack was a response to IDF actions in Beirut. The Israel Defense Forces reported intercepting all Iranian missiles, but local residents recorded some strikes. The type of Iranian missiles was not disclosed.

 

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Well over 50 MQ9 Reaper drones have been shot down during Iran and Yemen war.
Iran alone is presumed to have brought down nearly 20% of US MQ9 inventory.

This is what happens when you push a drone that is slow and incapable of defending itself in to enemy territory.

Same would be the result for our Akinci if we try to treat it like a fighter jet. In fact it could be worse. Since US did know the limitations of their drones.

If a country like Iran and Yemen without effective airforce and diminished AD capability can down so many UCAVs, a country with a modern airforce and AD will devastate drones like MQ9 (or our Akinci).
Fitting expensive Aesa radars (Probably more than 4 to 5 million dollars) to these planes is not going to change much. As soon as they are inside enemy airspace they will be vulnerable. They are only useful and safe in an attacking posture, if they are at stand off distances.

These drones can hardly operate above 25000ft. If they go too high they can not carry enough munitions and their endurance suffers. So if you want them to stay long in air and carry decent amount of payload, they are at vulnerable altitudes. If they are to operate under cloud cover, then it is almost like a suicide mission.

But US uses them for intelligence as well and it seems, can afford to lose them.
If you position Akıncı within a mixed fleet of fighter/bomber and air-to-air combat aircraft, where electronic warfare elements (air soj) suppress air defense systems, these negative situations you mentioned can be avoided.

This scenario could also assign the Akıncı the role of a missile truck – you could gain an extra eye with its AESA radar. Or you could expand your electronic warfare umbrella with the electronic warfare pod developed for Antidot-U UAVs.
 

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If you position Akıncı within a mixed fleet of fighter/bomber and air-to-air combat aircraft, where electronic warfare elements (air soj) suppress air defense systems, these negative situations you mentioned can be avoided.

This scenario could also assign the Akıncı the role of a missile truck – you could gain an extra eye with its AESA radar. Or you could expand your electronic warfare umbrella with the electronic warfare pod developed for Antidot-U UAVs.
Thats what he meant.
Akinci/Reaper/Ch5/6 etc alone against modern air defence is worthless.
 

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Thats what he meant.
Akinci/Reaper/Ch5/6 etc alone against modern air defence is worthless.
However, we are talking about full-scale wars here. In Operation Spring Shield, combat aircraft were not the primary focus. Therefore, this type of argument is no longer valid. In Operation Spring Shield, we weren't focused on striking Russia. Our focus was on overwhelming the Assad regime with electronic warfare and dismantling it with UAVs. Therefore, the power projection remained at the operative level.

However, in a war with Iran, there is an expectation of a strategic-level projection.

Therefore, you cannot compare the expectation-need cycle here with an operative-level operation.

With command headquarters and air bases at risk of being hit, and the speed of the sensor-to-shooter cycle being crucial, a $5 million SAR radar has to be a disposable asset. Because you have to make decisions and conduct operations that will win or lose the war. It's a knife-edge situation here. The US couldn't keep up with the detection and subsequent destruction cycle of kamikaze drones. Thus, ballistic missile early warning radars were destroyed by Saheed kamikaze drones. Or Saheed kamikaze drones overwhelmed air defense systems. Afterwards, these radars were destroyed by ballistic missiles.

We won't only use Akıncı or Aksungur in offensive operations. Someone needs to be on guard in the air with AESA radars against kamikaze attacks. The fact that Israel's F-35s can hunt down Akıncı or Aksungur like quail shouldn't mean we give them up.

You might ask, "Why do we need this when we have air defense systems?"

-First of all, it's necessary to increase saturation.
-Now, in command and control centers, artificial intelligence automatically detects your weak points during operations and shifts forces to exploit those vulnerabilities. To keep the system dynamic and make it harder to detect your weaknesses, you need to keep armed UAVs in the air.

-The quantitative scarcity of air defense systems may prevent them from being sufficient to cover all critical facilities.
-The use of inexpensive missiles like the Eren is essential for stock management in air defense missiles.
 

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If you position Akıncı within a mixed fleet of fighter/bomber and air-to-air combat aircraft, where electronic warfare elements (air soj) suppress air defense systems, these negative situations you mentioned can be avoided.
Akıncı can not be mixed with fighter/bomber jets. It is slow and sluggish. When laden it can’t go high enough either.
We were lucky with our Stand off jammers/Koral EW systems in Spring Shield operation. Russian ground AD assets could not break our jamming. But now they are much better at it in Ukraine. Of course we have since improved too.

But Akinci or MQ9 Reaper class drones would be easy prey for modern AD systems and airforces if allowed to enter enemy airspace unprotected. (It is also wrong strategy to protect them with a fighter jet that costs three times more.)
EW will definitely play a big role in future air combat. But your adversaries are not going to be sitting on their laurels either.

As a bomb truck staying in air for long periods of time and bombing opportunity targets from stand off distances is the best way to utilise Akinci. It will hold its own against other UCAVs too as proven in Sudan. But it is no match for a fully fledged fighter jet, even if it has an Aesa radar. It is like giving a donkey a golden saddle and expecting it to behave like a horse. It would still be a donkey.

MQ9 carries 250kg glide bombs that can hit targets 100+km away. Akinci can carry the same KGK bombs of ours and in addition it can carry 200km range IHA230 supersonic rocket munitions.
If Stand Off Jamming is effective, then they can get closer to enemy airspace. Otherwise what happened to Mali Airforce Akinci would happen again.

Real game changer will be Kizilelma UCAV. But it must have IWBs, RAM paint and fitted with TF10000 engine.
 
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Akıncı can not be mixed with fighter/bomber jets. It is slow and sluggish. When laden it can’t go high enough either.
We were lucky with our Stand off jammers/Koral EW systems in Spring Shield operation. Russian ground AD assets could not break our jamming. But now they are much better at it in Ukraine. Of course we have since improved too.

But Akinci or MQ9 Reaper class drones would be easy prey for modern AD systems and airforces if allowed to enter enemy airspace unprotected. (It is also wrong strategy to protect them with a fighter jet that costs three times more.)
EW will definitely play a big role in future air combat. But your adversaries are not going to be sitting on their laurels either.

As a bomb truck staying in air for long periods of time and bombing opportunity targets from stand off distances is the best way to utilise Akinci. It will hold its own against other UCAVs too as proven in Sudan. But it is no match for a fully fledged fighter jet, even if it has an Aesa radar. It is like giving a donkey a golden saddle and expecting it to behave like a horse. It would still be a donkey.

MQ9 carries 250kg glide bombs that can hit targets 100+km away. Akinci can carry the same KGK bombs of ours and in addition it can carry 200km range IHA230 supersonic rocket munitions.
If Stand Off Jamming is effective, then they can get closer to enemy airspace. Otherwise what happened to Mali Airforce Akinci would happen again.

Real game changer will be Kizilelma UCAV. But it must have IWBs, RAM paint and fitted with TF10000 engine.
I agree that there should be a division of labor between UAVs and combat aircraft.
 

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