TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Khagan1923]

Great point after 22:00 mark. Vance did mention a certification process already being underway regarding legality of transferring F-35s to Turkey(S400). And a sale notice was made to the congress for F110 engines. Engines will be delivered to TAI; and the project belongs to SSB, which is under CAATSA sanctions. This must mean that CAATSA is a goner in short term.

I see a lot of people talking about the F-35s not coming even if S-400 gets resolved. Im sorry but that is not how the systems in the US works. As much as we clown on the US under Trump they still have systems in place that are working and will continue to work.

F-35 not being handed over to Turkey is connected to the S-400 and nothing else, as stated in the NDAA. If the Admin signs the certification that the S-400 issue has been resolved there is nothing the congress can do in the short term to stop it. Also both Democrats and Republicans would have to unite to accomplish another blockade of the hand over of the 6 F-35 and sale of further F-35 which wont happen as leaks are already circulating with the White House telling Republican Senators to be quiet and sit down. To block the sale Congress would need to pass another amendment, can it happen? Sure, is it likely to happen? No. With no law standing in the way Trump can push the sale through just like he did with the F-110. (He did the same in his first term with the UAE and F-35 which only fell through after he lost the election and Biden stopped the sale)

The handful of greek paid reps who are screaming have no actual power. I would like to mention that the House has over 400 Reps in it with 3-4 greek paid agents screaming around. That is 1% of the House making a ruckus who have no influence in the White House or even a connection to it.

Same group was also whining when the F-16 deal was being leaked (and yes the F-16 purchase has been greenlit the reason it has not been signed is LM and MSB negotiating over the price and other details).

Even if a further purchase is made impossible I think we will see at least the 6 F-35 sitting around be deliverd to the Turkish Air Force. Which alone would be a benefit to get the plane known with its quirks and weaknesses.

As I said I would not be suprised to see a mega deal be announced around the NATO summit between Turkey and the US. Trump is not doing this out of the good of his heart. He will extract that which he loves the most, money.

Vance might also see this as a way to show the Israelis the stick, after their behaviour against him and Trump over the last month.

We will see next week.

 

[Sanchez]

The handful of greek paid reps who are screaming have no actual power. I would like to mention that the House has over 400 Reps in it with 3-4 greek paid agents screaming around. That is 1% of the House making a ruckus who have no influence in the White House or even a connection to it.

We should add, they also chose their fight as F-35 and not engines. Greek publications that are linked to FDD and Hellenic Leaders like Kathimerini were quick to release reports saying "engines and F-35 are not linked".

 

[Saithan]

Military SOFA deal with Greek Cyprus 'technical,' says French diplomatic source - Türkiye Today

France calls its Greek Cyprus military pact 'a technical, humanitarian' deal after Türkiye said SOFA deal is 'illegal' under international law

www.turkiyetoday.com

 

[GoatsMilk]

Actual Armenians mainly suffered due to the "Armenian" diaspora in the US and France, who were busy with injecting plastic into their bodies and running illegal businesses (mainly in LA/Cali together with the russians) while expecting Armenians in Armenia to die so they can glorify their deaths on social media and victimize themselves.

Pashanyan is the first armanian politician to actually realize the damage these groups have done to his country and its people and has cut them out of any discussions, you can tell by the vitrole he gets from the "diaspora Armanians".

People who never set foot in Armenia, don't speak or can even read the language were dictating to actual armenians to start wars they were always destined to lose in horrific fashion so they can go around LA and Paris and act like victims.

We see the same characteristic from pkk aligned kurds in europe. Where they want kurds in the ME to get massacred by starting armed conflicts and then afterwards run around in Europe and social media and try to portray themselves as victims so they can gain benefits for themselves personally.

Funnily enough another point that connects those two groups is that most of them are involved in illegal businesses.

These PKK Kurds are more scandalous because plenty of them have properties in western Turkiye and regularly go on holiday to Turkiye. This one Kurd i know will always promote on his social media how oppressive and evil Turkiye is, yet every year he goes on holiday to antalya and istanbul and posts about it. That's another thing i notice about all these pkk Kurds, they don't migrate to northern Iraq, their always migrating towards where Turks are.

I even saw how it took place here in england. You got places in London filled with Cypriot Turks, then Kurds starts moving in. Once the Kurds get a footing in the area thanks to the Turks helping and supporting them, then you start seeing the "kurdistan" banners, flags, pkk support etc.

 

[Khagan1923]

We should add, they also chose their fight as F-35 and not engines. Greek publications that are linked to FDD and Hellenic Leaders like Kathimerini were quick to release reports saying "engines and F-35 are not linked".

Oh, they have been crying about the engines too. TFX Kaan is a big threat to them and they know it.

There is just nothing they can do about it. As a greek bribed rep said "I was notified by the White House that the sale has happened".

F-35, if it happens will happen the same way.

Curiously enough Graham has been pretty silent about all of this.

These PKK Kurds are more scandalous because plenty of them have properties in western Turkiye and regularly go on holiday to Turkiye. This one Kurd i know will always promote on his social media how oppressive and evil Turkiye is, yet every year he goes on holiday to antalya and istanbul and posts about it. That's another thing i notice about all these pkk Kurds, they don't migrate to northern Iraq, their always migrating towards where Turks are.

I even saw how it took place here in england. You got places in London filled with Cypriot Turks, then Kurds starts moving in. Once the Kurds get a footing in the area thanks to the Turks helping and supporting them, then you start seeing the "kurdistan" banners, flags, pkk support etc.

Those kurds being allowed to own properties in Turkey and vacation in Bodrum Antalya and so on is the Governments fault any other country and they would be arrested and jailed the second they step foot in the country with their assets in country being seized. And of course they will migrate to where Turks are, in comparision Turks are culturally more elevated while majority of kurds are stuck in the tribal mindset of the 18th century. That is also why you see the pkk supporting "leftist" kurds spread vitrol against Turks and the Turkish Republic but all of them live in Izmir or Istanbul and not in Diyarbakir or Hakkari or Mardin which they all part of "kurdistan". Because they know what their fate would be.


If Turkey agreed to give them land but in return all kurds would get deported to "kurdistan" and any entry into Turkish lands would be forbidden majority of them would say no to such a deal.

Ironic enough Turks might be the most democratic group in Europe, the shit Turks tolerate would not fly in most other countries. Look at western european countries all turning towards far right parties just after 10 years of immigration from the middle east and south asia. Meanwhile our people are still trying to vote for the akp and chp, lmao.

Nevertheless this is bordering on off-topic.

 

[Khagan1923]

Military SOFA deal with Greek Cyprus 'technical,' says French diplomatic source - Türkiye Today

France calls its Greek Cyprus military pact 'a technical, humanitarian' deal after Türkiye said SOFA deal is 'illegal' under international law

www.turkiyetoday.com

Macron is busy selling them shit they will never be able to use even if it comes to it.

Not only that this behaviour of the South will only lead to Turkey stop giving a fuck and start deploying more troops and assets on the island.

Moronic behaviour from whiny children the EU has been spoon feeding for the last 5 decades now.

Can't wait for their veto rights to be rightfully stripped from them and them finally being relegated to tourism and tax free spots for the rest of the EU.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Macron is busy selling them shit they will never be able to use even if it comes to it.

Not only that this behaviour of the South will only lead to Turkey stop giving a fuck and start deploying more troops and assets on the island.

Moronic behaviour from whiny children the EU has been spoon feeding for the last 5 decades now.

Can't wait for their veto rights to be rightfully stripped from them and them finally being relegated to tourism and tax free spots for the rest of the EU.

more troops are not needed maybe just modernising but 40k is more than enough to crush them ten times over

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

These PKK Kurds are more scandalous because plenty of them have properties in western Turkiye and regularly go on holiday to Turkiye. This one Kurd i know will always promote on his social media how oppressive and evil Turkiye is, yet every year he goes on holiday to antalya and istanbul and posts about it. That's another thing i notice about all these pkk Kurds, they don't migrate to northern Iraq, their always migrating towards where Turks are.

I even saw how it took place here in england. You got places in London filled with Cypriot Turks, then Kurds starts moving in. Once the Kurds get a footing in the area thanks to the Turks helping and supporting them, then you start seeing the "kurdistan" banners, flags, pkk support etc.

If Türkiye had any brains, they'd send as many kurds to northern Iraq as possible no ifs and buts.

 

[Sanchez]

If Türkiye had any brains, they'd send as many kurds to northern Iraq as possible no ifs and buts.

That's literally how North Syria became a hotbed for PKK.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

That's literally how North Syria became a hotbed for PKK.

Easier to contain than having them inside. Last time I checked all the pkk dogs are inside the country already. I rather have them outside.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2072747407981318185

Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan:

Israel is trying to create an enemy for itself.

We have no reason to fear, hesitate, or back down from anyone, whether it's Israel or any other actor.

Fighting is our business, no problem at all.

 

[GoatsMilk]

That's literally how North Syria became a hotbed for PKK.

I don't think it matters where you put them in terms of how they think and behave. But ideally outside Turkiye would be far better. Because these guys wherever you put them eventually they start claiming it as historical kurdistan. We even seen this take place in Japan recently. Their just bad news and burden on any society they enter.

Why any common Kurd can be drawn towards these criminal degenerates is beyond me.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2074503932588523997

 

[Sanchez]

Selvi writes that the S400s are going to be offloaded to a Gulf country, likely UAE or Qatar. Interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2075474867093201158

 

[Pokemonte13]

Don't those countries also want to buy F-35s?
But paying for almost new Eurofighters with S400s is the least bad option i guess.

Is not realistic for any of these countries they can buy any other ad system and they do. Only reason could be they need to replenish their sock fast no matter how but that is a long pitch.

 

[TheInsider]

What I heard is that S400 to UEA and Qatar is on the table . Russia is bullish on the issue and wants to buy back its own system from the UAE or Qatar. It is likely that we are selling S400 back to Russia in a complex roundabout way, not to hurt relations with Ukraine.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Imagine selling the S400 and the US still not selling the F35, I absolutely could see them doing that... Let's hope for the best.

 

[TheInsider]

Imagine selling the S400 and the US still not selling the F35, I absolutely could see them doing that... Let's hope for the best.

They will likely try to introduce new goalposts, but regardless of that, S400 is not suitable for us, we should get rid of it even if we can't get F-35s.

 

[GoatsMilk]

They will likely try to introduce new goalposts, but regardless of that, S400 is not suitable for us, we should get rid of it even if we can't get F-35s.

When we lost F35 because AK party brought s400, AKtrolls convinced us it was a great idea and F35's were shit and it saved us a massive economic burden. Now years later their selling the S400's most likely at a loss to get back f35's that they will probably pay more for now. This is now sold as a great political success story.

Anyway, i wouldn't sell the s400 until the first F35's are received.

 

[TheInsider]

When we lost F35 because AK party brought s400, AKtrolls convinced us it was a great idea and F35's were shit and it saved us a massive economic burden. Now years later their selling the S400's most likely at a loss to get back f35's that they will probably pay more for now. This is now sold as a great political success story.

Anyway, i wouldn't sell the s400 until the first F35's are received.

This will go down as one of the most foolish moves of the century.