TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[TurkWolf]

2) We gain a lot by by being in the Mecca Alliance (such as a nuclear umbrella against Israel) and it is just the beginning. If it is all about gains and we are going to gain, would you be ok with this alliance?

Unlike Islamists. we Turks are not afraid of Israel. And we don't need to be in any alliance to confront the cousins of Arabs the Jews.

3) Speak for yourself. You are not a spokesman for the Turks.

I made myself the spokesman for all Turks. ok?

4) What gave you the idea that a defensive pact means dying for the others? I'm struggling to believe someone can have such low comprehension skills.

Maybe go read the news? Saudis are being humiliated by the Iranians, and now we're in this "alliance" because their western masters won't die for them like they thought for decades.

5) I don't represent any "people" here. I don't know what imaginary group you are involving me in.

We can all see what group you are in. And it's certainly not a Turkish group. Trust me I know you're not even a Turk to begin with.

6) Nobody wants to die for the others and that's not an alliance is.

All the "ideas" you have is based on imaginary enemies, cartoonish slogans and empty rhetorics. I would suggest you to read some international press and academic sources to save yourself from the tiny echo chamber you think is the world.

This whole alliance was most likely brought about by the Americans to protect their little Arabs.. because their western blood is not worth dying for these people. so the next best option is the slave "Turk" AKP and Pakistanis.

 

[TurkWolf]

PKK, ideologically, is not a zionist group. Öcalan himself called out Israel many times. They are ideologically leftist-communists and they even cooperated with PLO in the past. However, especially in Syria, they developed a pragmatic partnership with the USA&Israel thinking that they could establish a statelet there. Turkish state is aware of this fact and they used Öcalan to take PKK away from the Israeli influence. Hence, their plans collapsed.

The ones that are eager to cooperate with Israel are Kurdish nationalists and they are against the ongoing process. Just check twitter to see the ongoing disputes between Kurdish nationalists, PKK suporters and KDP supporters. Sometimes I feel sad about our people's ignorance about our enemies.

You’re oversimplifying the PKK’s relationship with Israel. Saying “PKK is not Zionist because Öcalan criticised Israel decades ago” ignores how the organisation has actually behaved in practice. Whatever their ideological branding, the PKK has a long record of pragmatic cooperation with foreign intelligence services, including Israeli ones — a pattern documented by multiple analysts and regional observers. That doesn’t make them ideologically Zionist, but it does show they’ve repeatedly aligned with Israel when it served their strategic goals.

More importantly, look at current behaviour, not 1980s rhetoric. Today, PKK‑aligned networks in Syria operate inside a U.S.–Israel security umbrella. Their political ecosystem online openly supports Israeli positions, especially since the Syrian conflict reshaped regional alliances. Meanwhile, Kurdish nationalist factions, PKK supporters, and KDP supporters fight daily on social media over who is closer to Israel — which alone shows how deep these ties run.

So no, the PKK isn’t “ideologically Zionist,” but pretending they’re disconnected from Israeli influence is just not accurate. Their followers’ current pro‑Israel stance, their alignment with U.S.–Israel regional strategy, and their long history of intelligence cooperation all contradict the claim you’re making.

But it's alright, they're now AKP Zionist lovers.

 

[Şok Tedavisi]

Unlike Islamists. we Turks are not afraid of Israel. And we don't need to be in any alliance to confront the cousins of Arabs the Jews.

I made myself the spokesman for all Turks. ok?

Maybe go read the news? Saudis are being humiliated by the Iranians, and now we're in this "alliance" because their western masters won't die for them like they thought for decades.

We can all see what group you are in. And it's certainly not a Turkish group. Trust me I know you're not even a Turk to begin with.

This whole alliance was most likely brought about by the Americans to protect their little Arabs.. because their western blood is not worth dying for these people. so the next best option is the slave "Turk" AKP and Pakistanis.

Greeks are in a defensive alliance with Saudis as well Greek Air-Defense contingent is currently deployed in Saudi arabia helping them, so we are technically in a alliance with the greeks thanks to erdoğan

 

[mehmed beg]

You forgot another certain group.

People who think they are "Turkists" but are nothing like their ancestors; full of a deep inferiority complex, driven by nationalist rhetoric, and so stuck in their own ignorant echo chamber that they mistake it for the truth. Many examples can be seen in this forum.

That is exactly what it is . I have seen these things in my country.
I wrote a few times here exactly this, people are hiding behind certain facade.
You can't say things that many by gone heroes would tolerate and then claim to be nationalist
Also it is pretty logical that in the face of trouble, people looking for unity and some sort of consensus.
You, it is one of defining characteristics of the suspicious people, that they feel more close to the foreign people who are of their children class or political views over their countryman.
That issue was the starting point of Mussolini.
My problem here is that wheather people can't define their ideas , yet they talk or they are not genuine.
This is very simple equation. I for example, I am in many ways against this " alliance" but at least I don't use corny and repetitive postulates , I am trying to write down some particularities.
In very small percentage I am for this alliance but cons out weight,
pros.
I don't systemise world around me , using some tiered flosculas.

 

[dBSPL]

There are also another set of unconfirmed reports that Turkey is planning to deploy a squadron of F16s in Tabuk airport, KSA which is located around 200km from Israeli borders. If true, then this is a massive piece of news; I wonder if Israel will remain silent on this matter

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2087892962499756396

There is only one military force capable of securing the economic corridors leading from Syria and Iraq to the Gulf region. I don't know if this news is true, but it's a fact that the navy, in addition to the air force, will increase its presence in the region. The project being prepared is the first time that economic and logistical continuity is considered as a whole with a security paradigm, following the crises experienced in the middle corridor. The Shia sectarian consolidation in the region has largely collapsed, and Zionist genocidal Israel has a shrinking room for maneuver, particularly due to the costs it has inflicted on the US. Following the destruction and instability created by these two poles, challenging issues such as the stabilization of bridge countries, especially Syria, remain very difficult milestones before us.

In this respect, a completely new concept is emerging. Although the integration of the Caspian Basin and the Gulf region into Europe via Anatolia has been a topic of discussion for years, without a concrete security component, these initiatives would remain perpetually futile in contested areas. For this projection to be realized, Türkiye needs to expand its military footprint, but with a difference: the process, which began with proxy wars, now requires the Turkish Armed Forces to directly enter the field as a security element through interstate relations.