TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[TurkWolf]

2) We gain a lot by by being in the Mecca Alliance (such as a nuclear umbrella against Israel) and it is just the beginning. If it is all about gains and we are going to gain, would you be ok with this alliance?

Unlike Islamists. we Turks are not afraid of Israel. And we don't need to be in any alliance to confront the cousins of Arabs the Jews.

3) Speak for yourself. You are not a spokesman for the Turks.

I made myself the spokesman for all Turks. ok?

4) What gave you the idea that a defensive pact means dying for the others? I'm struggling to believe someone can have such low comprehension skills.

Maybe go read the news? Saudis are being humiliated by the Iranians, and now we're in this "alliance" because their western masters won't die for them like they thought for decades.

5) I don't represent any "people" here. I don't know what imaginary group you are involving me in.

We can all see what group you are in. And it's certainly not a Turkish group. Trust me I know you're not even a Turk to begin with.

6) Nobody wants to die for the others and that's not an alliance is.

All the "ideas" you have is based on imaginary enemies, cartoonish slogans and empty rhetorics. I would suggest you to read some international press and academic sources to save yourself from the tiny echo chamber you think is the world.

This whole alliance was most likely brought about by the Americans to protect their little Arabs.. because their western blood is not worth dying for these people. so the next best option is the slave "Turk" AKP and Pakistanis.

 

[TurkWolf]

PKK, ideologically, is not a zionist group. Öcalan himself called out Israel many times. They are ideologically leftist-communists and they even cooperated with PLO in the past. However, especially in Syria, they developed a pragmatic partnership with the USA&Israel thinking that they could establish a statelet there. Turkish state is aware of this fact and they used Öcalan to take PKK away from the Israeli influence. Hence, their plans collapsed.

The ones that are eager to cooperate with Israel are Kurdish nationalists and they are against the ongoing process. Just check twitter to see the ongoing disputes between Kurdish nationalists, PKK suporters and KDP supporters. Sometimes I feel sad about our people's ignorance about our enemies.

You’re oversimplifying the PKK’s relationship with Israel. Saying “PKK is not Zionist because Öcalan criticised Israel decades ago” ignores how the organisation has actually behaved in practice. Whatever their ideological branding, the PKK has a long record of pragmatic cooperation with foreign intelligence services, including Israeli ones — a pattern documented by multiple analysts and regional observers. That doesn’t make them ideologically Zionist, but it does show they’ve repeatedly aligned with Israel when it served their strategic goals.

More importantly, look at current behaviour, not 1980s rhetoric. Today, PKK‑aligned networks in Syria operate inside a U.S.–Israel security umbrella. Their political ecosystem online openly supports Israeli positions, especially since the Syrian conflict reshaped regional alliances. Meanwhile, Kurdish nationalist factions, PKK supporters, and KDP supporters fight daily on social media over who is closer to Israel — which alone shows how deep these ties run.

So no, the PKK isn’t “ideologically Zionist,” but pretending they’re disconnected from Israeli influence is just not accurate. Their followers’ current pro‑Israel stance, their alignment with U.S.–Israel regional strategy, and their long history of intelligence cooperation all contradict the claim you’re making.

But it's alright, they're now AKP Zionist lovers.

 

[Şok Tedavisi]

Unlike Islamists. we Turks are not afraid of Israel. And we don't need to be in any alliance to confront the cousins of Arabs the Jews.

I made myself the spokesman for all Turks. ok?

Maybe go read the news? Saudis are being humiliated by the Iranians, and now we're in this "alliance" because their western masters won't die for them like they thought for decades.

We can all see what group you are in. And it's certainly not a Turkish group. Trust me I know you're not even a Turk to begin with.

This whole alliance was most likely brought about by the Americans to protect their little Arabs.. because their western blood is not worth dying for these people. so the next best option is the slave "Turk" AKP and Pakistanis.

Greeks are in a defensive alliance with Saudis as well Greek Air-Defense contingent is currently deployed in Saudi arabia helping them, so we are technically in a alliance with the greeks thanks to erdoğan