TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

[YeşilVatan]

You misunderstood, the reason feto type islamists and their agendas can progress within Turkish society is because they manipulate the common Muslim. FETO is CIA, part of that agenda was to attack the army, secularism, Ataturk, Turkish identity and history, all to pave the way for balkanisation of the state.

The only real way to counter it is for those who see the agenda to learn the religion and warn the common Muslim. As soon as you take the position that these islamists are all frauds and Islamist is an enemy of the Turkish people, the common Muslim just sees that his CIA overlords are right.

If the common Turk took back the religion, people like erdogan/feto wouldnt be possible.

I understand your point and agree.

But I sort of want to do Turko-jihad against kafir pkk

 

[Ryder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ottomans/comments/1s7mko4
Deserves a documentary movie or a tv show I guess he doesnt fit the narrative for both sides.

Shows you if the Ottomans reformed and modernised they would have not lost to Russia in the late 1700s to the 1800s.

Too little too late. I think Mahmud II deserves a movie just for him crushing those Balkan Jannisary shits lmaooo

 

[Şok Tedavisi]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ottomans/comments/1s7mko4
Deserves a documentary movie or a tv show I guess he doesnt fit the narrative for both sides.

Shows you if the Ottomans reformed and modernised they would have not lost to Russia in the late 1700s to the 1800s.

Too little too late. I think Mahmud II deserves a movie just for him crushing those Balkan Jannisary shits lmaooo

TRT 1 fatihi yeniçeriler ile beraber çorba içirmekle meşgul (adamı gören yeniçeri sayısı 2-3 falandır)

 

[Ryder]

TRT 1 fatihi yeniçeriler ile beraber çorba içirmekle meşgul (adamı gören yeniçeri sayısı 2-3 falandır)

Hala insanlar zannediyor. Yeniceriler. Osmanlinin butun Ordusu. Resmen sadece 10 bine ya da 20 bine ulasdilar ve en cok savas eden normal Turklerdi.

Ottoman army was formed mainly by regulars. People think the Jannisaries are the entire armed forces.

Jannisaries are overrated as the Samurai. I dont deny they were good soldiers played a role in our history and victories. As soon as they wanted more privledges they dragged everybody down.

They even tookover a entire country. Whole glazing of Jannisaries is also done by Europeans because they want to showcase that Turks cant fight have to rely on Europeans.

Sipahis were literally better. They fought and died for both victories and defeats and Mahmud II granted them the long needed retirement they deserved. Instead of rebelling they gladly accepted it retired which allowed their children to become part of a new cavalry unit.

Jannisaries were the bad ending the Sipahi was the good ending.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Hala insanlar zannediyor. Yeniceriler. Osmanlinin butun Ordusu. Resmen sadece 10 bine ya da 20 bine ulasdilar ve en cok savas eden normal Turklerdi.

Ottoman army was formed mainly by regulars. People think the Jannisaries are the entire armed forces.

Jannisaries are overrated as the Samurai. I dont deny they were good soldiers played a role in our history and victories. As soon as they wanted more privledges they dragged everybody down.

They even tookover a entire country. Whole glazing of Jannisaries is also done by Europeans because they want to showcase that Turks cant fight have to rely on Europeans.

Sipahis were literally better. They fought and died for both victories and defeats and Mahmud II granted them the long needed retirement they deserved. Instead of rebelling they gladly accepted it retired which allowed their children to become part of a new cavalry unit.

Jannisaries were the bad ending the Sipahi was the good ending.

Giving minorities too many rights never ends well, not back then and not today.