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Doesnt it normally take two years?
Similar question was directed at an English pilot who had flown Harriers, F16s and Typhoons. He said since the first lot of pilots to be given training are ex-f16 pilots, he said, they should be proficient in 3 to 4 months.

The real important news is; what is going on with the Qatari and Omani Typhoons that were due to arrive in Turkiye 6 months ago?

 
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The real important news is; what is going on with the Qatari and Omani Typhoons that were due to arrive in Turkiye 6 months ago?
If they are being held back because of the Iran war they could stay where they are until Trump leaves office. If there is no sign of them being supplied until peace comes to the Gulf, is there a plan B?
 

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If they are being held back because of the Iran war they could stay where they are until Trump leaves office. If there is no sign of them being supplied until peace comes to the Gulf, is there a plan B?
The whole idea of buying Typhoons were to bridge the arrival of Kaan in early 2030s and the lack of 4.5 generation fighters in the TurAF in post 2026-27. With that in mind, quick delivery of second hand jets from Qatar and Oman were arranged.

If these early planes are not delivered due to the Iran war, it could be a blessing in disguise for us and the Kaan project. It would make it even more important and vital to produce as many of those 40 initial Kaan planes as possible.
We also may have to go for the 20 more Typhoons option quickly in addition to the 40 Kaan to have modern jets in the inventory.
That will also make TUSAS get it’s act together and start producing Kaan more quickly and apply Ozgur-2 modernisation to all F16s in inventory in stead of dragging it‘s feet.
 

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The whole idea of buying Typhoons were to bridge the arrival of Kaan in early 2030s and the lack of 4.5 generation fighters in the TurAF in post 2026-27. With that in mind, quick delivery of second hand jets from Qatar and Oman were arranged.

If these early planes are not delivered due to the Iran war, it could be a blessing in disguise for us and the Kaan project. It would make it even more important and vital to produce as many of those 40 initial Kaan planes as possible.
We also may have to go for the 20 more Typhoons option quickly in addition to the 40 Kaan to have modern jets in the inventory.
That will also make TUSAS get it’s act together and start producing Kaan more quickly and apply Ozgur-2 modernisation to all F16s in inventory in stead of dragging it‘s feet.
Perhaps 20 more Typhoon should be ordered if timely delivery of Qatari/Omani Typhoons cannot be guaranteed. I guess that BAE Systems will be needing to switch their Typhoon FAL over to GCAP assembly around 2033 if it is to be delivered to RAF by 2035. Perhaps GCAP deliveries to RAF are scheduled to be later than the 2035 Japan needs. I don't know but in that case, no great hurry for Turkiye to order more Typhoons early.

Turkiye was unlucky that Israel and the US decided to attack Iran, wasn't it?
 

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In civil aviation talk it is called "(aircraft) type training", you are already a pilot and you are leaning to plilot a different aircraft. You get "type rated" for that aircraft once you succesfully complete the training.
 

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Why transfer planes here without pilot and crew? They would be sitting in the hangar. If qatari planes don't arrive after 8 months then we can worry
 

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I am certain that the training of pilots is scheduled according to delivery. Otherwise it would be dumb to have our pilots trained when there are no EF jets.

Unless TuAF is planning to have our pilots pilot EF while they're still in Qatars airforce and Omans airforce.
 

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I am certain that the training of pilots is scheduled according to delivery. Otherwise it would be dumb to have our pilots trained when there are no EF jets.

Unless TuAF is planning to have our pilots pilot EF while they're still in Qatars airforce and Omans airforce.
Oman’s Typhoons don’t have the ECRS-MK0 radars. They need to be upgraded. So if we are buying those, they should really be making their way to the UK.
 

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