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Managed [I had volunteered to sign and give my time to NHS Support Responders during lockdown which entailed delivering medication, food parcels to vulnerable groups which I think gave me the computational points to qualify] to get hold of NHS Antibody test. I think I got coronavirus back in February 2020. Posted the test today so I should know If I have the antibodies in few days - if the result is positive I will be 'free'. Yipee yee .....

The NHS Vaccine programme seems to be rolling along nicely. My mum and dad got vaccinated last week as both are over 80 and got top priorty. The NHS calculator tells me I should gret a call for the vaccine [assuming I need it] by late April 2021. Not bad again. @Yankeestani
My parents and my sister caught the virus while my test was negative even though I had symptoms. I think that my result is false negative but who knows? You should know, though, that these kind of antibodies tests are extremely unreliable. Please share your outcome. Hopefully it's positive.
 

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Please share your outcome. Hopefully it's positive.
Sadly the result was 'negative'. Meaning it is highly unlikely I have had coronavirus. Bad news. This means I don't have immunity like I was hoping. Now I have to wait dodge the damned thing till April when the NHS calculator suggests I might get my turn for the vaccine.
 

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Sadly the result was 'negative'. Meaning it is highly unlikely I have had coronavirus. Bad news. This means I don't have immunity like I was hoping. Now I have to wait dodge the damned thing till April when the NHS calculator suggests I might get my turn for the vaccine.
If only we had something like the NHS here but in America there is tendency among those on the right that decent run health care is "socialism" and bad it's easy to say that until you get health troubles and very nasty hospital bill
 

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If only we had something like the NHS here but in America there is tendency among those on the right that decent run health care is "socialism" and bad it's easy to say that until you get health troubles and very nasty hospital bill
If there is god in UK it would be NHS. And it is religious belief to support it. And I do. The greatest institution there is for all it's flaws.
 

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Sadly the result was 'negative'. Meaning it is highly unlikely I have had coronavirus. Bad news. This means I don't have immunity like I was hoping. Now I have to wait dodge the damned thing till April when the NHS calculator suggests I might get my turn for the vaccine.
It really depends on which test method you are applying. Some tests are able to detect antibodies even months after you got infected. They are usually expensive and made in the laboratory. I assume that your test kit would only work correctly if you get tested within two or three weeks after the infection.

You might be immune after all but don't challenge your luck, play safe and protect yourself.
 

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If there is god in UK it would be NHS. And it is religious belief to support it. And I do. The greatest institution there is for all it's flaws.
This is what I don't understand. The NHS is only great if compared to the American health care system. Having said that, it's a fact that many Western European health care systems are much better than the NHS.
 

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Yes, I did. Altough I have not kept up with how it has worked for them. As a lay person I felt it was wrong. Sort of let the 'weak' die and end with the survival of the fittest. Not sure that is morally or from policy standpoint a good idea.
Actually, they are dieing. It was a stupid and odious concept in the first place and it pretty much ruined Sweden's reputation as a heaven of human rights and solidarity.
 

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Actually, they are dieing. It was a stupid and odious concept in the first place and it pretty much ruined Sweden's reputation as a heaven of human rights and solidarity.

We’ll see where it goes. Ppl were more cautious and didn’t want to expose their family to covid19 so the herd immunity strategy didn’t have enough participants. As I recall.
 

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We’ll see where it goes. Ppl were more cautious and didn’t want to expose their family to covid19 so the herd immunity strategy didn’t have enough participants. As I recall.
I believe it was the other way around. Too many people got exposed and subsequently spread the virus to vulnerable groups like senior citizens or people with chronic conditions.

The death rate of Sweden is very high. In general, scientists consider the Swedish experiment as a huge failure. Even the Swedish government has changed its approach. There's a lockdown in Sweden currently.
 

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This is what I don't understand. The NHS is only great if compared to the American health care system. Having said that, it's a fact that many Western European health care systems are much better than the NHS
Not sure about that. Despite it's failings it remains a source of pride that unites most people in UK, left, right or centre. UK was first to lsunch the vaccine programme and as of date I believe we have hit the highest numbers vaccinated approaching I think 1.5 million. I took my mum last Friday and she got her jab. My dad will recieve it tommorow at home as he can't articulate himself. They are 81 and 86 respectively. I have been talking to my local GP [doctor] and he has told me he might get me a shot within next two weeks despite my age being 57. He told me they are only vaccinating 65 plus year olds but many choose to NOT get vaccinated because of all the rubbish peddled about safety. So in the event of a missed appointment as long as I agree to go over to the surgery at any time they call me I could get a jab. This prevents the jabs being wasted. Trust me I will race over when I get the call. After the jab I don't need to worry about this curse.

So NHS. Bravo !!!
 

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Amongst the large countries UK is number one at 3 doses per 100 people. Globally it is second to Israel which of course is a tiny country. The target is about 25 million by Mid February. As the PM said this is a goal that could be reached providing we get wind in our sail. So let us see what happens.

 

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In a statement from the US Center for Disease Control and Prevention, it was estimated that more than 90 thousand Americans could die from the new type of coronavirus in three weeks.
 

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New COVID-19 variant defeats plasma treatment, may reduce vaccine efficacy​


The new COVID-19 variant identified in South Africa can evade the antibodies that attack it in treatments using blood plasma from previously recovered patients, and may reduce the efficacy of the current line of vaccines, scientists said on Wednesday.

Researchers are racing to establish whether the vaccines currently being rolled out across the globe are effective against the so-called 501Y.V2 variant, identified by South African genomics experts late last year in Nelson Mandela Bay.

“This lineage exhibits complete escape from three classes of therapeutically relevant monoclonal antibodies,” the team of scientists from three South African universities working with the National Institute for Communicable Diseases (NICD) wrote in a paper published in the bioRxiv journal.

“Furthermore, 501Y.V2 shows substantial or complete escape from neutralising antibodies in COVID-19 convalescent plasma,” they wrote, adding that their conclusions “highlight the prospect of reinfection ... and may foreshadow reduced efficacy of current spike-based vaccines.”


The 501Y.V2 variant is 50% more infectious than previous ones, South African researchers said this week. It has already spread to at least 20 countries since being reported to the World Health Organisation in late December.

It is one of several new variants discovered in recent months, including others first found in England and Brazil.

The variant is the main driver of South Africa’s second wave of COVID-19 infections, which hit a new daily peak above 21,000 cases earlier this month, far above the first wave, before falling to about 12,000 a day.


Convalescent blood plasma from previous patients has not been shown to be effective when administered to severely ill patients requiring intensive care for COVID-19, but it is approved in several countries as an emergency measure.

British scientists and politicians have expressed concern that vaccines currently being deployed or in development could be less effective against the variant.

The paper said it remained to be seen how effective current vaccines were against 501Y.V2, which would only be determined by large-scale clinical trials. But results showed the need for new vaccines to be designed to tackle the evolving threat, it said.
 

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Got my Pfizer jab today. So far no adverse reaction. Feel lucky to have at least some protection and sense of freedom again. Although it will be 12 days before the vaccine kicks in.
 

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