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I don't know how to comment on the navy wish lish . But the reality is that wishlist would only a minimum requirement we should have/needed just trying to " contain " the northern waves ..
 

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Whoaaa....
Do they really did this ?
I mean put 300k replica helmet without any proper function to service?

hey as long as it's looks tacticool .
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By the end of 3rd quarter 2020, our foreign debt was $408.5 bil, which represents 38.1% debt to GDP ratio. Long-term loans accounted for 89.1% of the current outstanding debt.

Assuming that we need $30 bil to buy all of the items on the list (especially the big tickets), our debt will increase to about $440 bil or about 41% debt to GDP ratio. So the $30 bil correlates to about 3% GDP.

Our military spending in 2019 is about 0.9% GDP. If we can get long-term loan for this additional 3% GDP spending to meet all the items in the list I think we can still afford it. It's probably going to be spread to about 0.3% - 0.4% GDP per year.
 

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Back then, even with this A1 information none of them are fufilled today.

Then this brochure out of nowhere come and make a wishlist, wich some of the item are currently unexist or unavailable to buy.
 

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Back then, even with this A1 information none of them are fufilled today.

Then this brochure out of nowhere come and make a wishlist, wich some of the item are currently unexist or unavailable to buy.
I think "that" list in process now become "this".
 

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Whoaaa....
Do they really did this ?
I mean put 300k replica helmet without any proper function to service?


This look stupid to the max, Our old school but reliable PASGT helmet is great. They had survived many type of condition and ruthless terrain since Aceh Darmil in 1990's till nowadays fight in Papua. If they want new helmet just get one black MICH type helmet like the Army had, better had black colored ones instead this rubbish
 

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This look stupid to the max, Our old school but reliable PASGT helmet is great. They had survived many type of condition and ruthless terrain since Aceh Darmil in 1990's till nowadays fight in Papua. If they want new helmet just get one black MICH type helmet like the Army had, better had black colored ones instead this rubbish

Well , who knows ?? Maybe it's the same suplier after all ...
I've long stopped to track who is suplying who nowadays .
 

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Wait I just realized something from that list. No new amphibious vehicle or any new procurement for Marine?
 

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Wait I just realized something from that list. No new amphibious vehicle or any new procurement for Marine?

Who we will send them to fight for then ?? If we couldn't even guaranteed them safely delivered in the transportation process ??
Unnecessary loses of material and personel for the sake of vanity . Not to mention their preferences on " eastern " product that only makes thing harder during the acquisition process during this times of trouble .
 

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Wait I just realized something from that list. No new amphibious vehicle or any new procurement for Marine?

Navy bought at least 12 new LST and many logistic vehicles like LCU, LPD and so on, all of them need adequate number of Escort vessels. Time to build more Frigates and Corvettes or OPV
 

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CMMIW, i didnt want to be speculate then. But if it so, the chance of "Riachuleo"(again CMMIW) scorpene use as the basic hull and equipped with more durable Li-ion battery without the presence of AIP ?
Or its still AIP with Li-ion ?


This look stupid to the max, Our old school but reliable PASGT helmet is great. They had survived many type of condition and ruthless terrain since Aceh Darmil in 1990's till nowadays fight in Papua. If they want new helmet just get one black MICH type helmet like the Army had, better had black colored ones instead this rubbish
Umm...

I think stupid is to much. Beside am still learn from you guys about defence tho.

But hey, if its as good as PASGT and add some picantiny rail and its done. Tacticool.
Dunno if there's budget allocation for NVG tho
 

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But hey, if its as good as PASGT and add some picantiny rail and its done. Tacticool.
Dunno if there's budget allocation for NVG tho
we started to replacing our PASGT helmet to MICH one who already got rail on them (atleast on our frontline troops for now), so there's no need to add attachment to our old PASGT helmet
 

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what is significant improvement using Lithium Ion battery over conventional lead-acid battery?
lithium were denser than lead-acid so it can store more mean longer range and got smaller packaging/size than lead-acid.
lithium also got better charging time than lead-acid and the price is going down right now considering the transition to electrification and more R&D spend to make lithium better.
 

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what is significant improvement using Lithium Ion battery over conventional lead-acid battery?
Japanese even considering to throw out their sterling AIP and replacing all the batteries with lithium-ion one.

After using lithium, no need for AIP anymore.
 

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