How Beijing silences Chinese voices against oppression of Uyghurs

[xizhimen]

yes you see there???

Xinjiang in 2017-2018 population growth rates are basically halved 11.40% to 6.13%.

it's indeed true that Xinjiang growth rates are double the Hans 6.13 to 3.81.

but that's not how you read the chart pal, read it vertically instead of horizontally.

The whole nation dropped , but Why even with the drop, the birthrate of Xinjiang is still twice as high as China's average? can you explain?

 

[xizhimen]

How about bringing gas production data ?

That oil data is huge for Xinjiang province. Not to mention you have brought huge Han people there

Russia has a lot of gas and oil, but it doesn't make Russia a rich country, China's GDP per capita now is higher than Russia's, the top oil and gas production provinces in China are all below China's average in GDP and overall development.

 

[Gary]

The whole nation dropped , but Why even with the drop, the birthrate of Xinjiang is still twice as high as China's average? can you explain?

oh yes, the whole nation dropped, you know it's basic mathematic that when you're fewer in numbers such drop are amount to a more significant portion , Han Chinese (1.2B or so) dropping from 5.32 to 3.81 in a span of a year doesn't affect much. The Uyghurs (a people of a mere 8 million) dropping by half from 11.40% to 6.13% raises some serious question.

thank god outside China we are able and allowed to think.

 

[xizhimen]

oh yes, the whole nation dropped, you know it's basic mathematic that when you're fewer in numbers such drop are amount to a more significant portion , Han Chinese (1.2B or so) dropping from 5.32 to 3.81 in a span of a year doesn't affect much. The Uyghurs (a people of a mere 8 million) dropping by half from 11.40% to 6.13% raises some serious question.

thank god outside China we are able and allowed to think.

But Why even with the drop, the birthrate of Xinjiang is still twice as high as China's average? can you explain this obvious fact?

 

[Indos]

Russia has a lot of gas and oil, but it doesn't make Russia a rich country, the top oil and gas production provinces in China are all below China's average in GDP and overall development.

LOL of course since the money will be taken by state owned oil companies and central government, similar like Riau province in Indonesia should be very rich if they are a separated country from Indonesia.

Russia is quite rich, just look on their infrastructures and the GDP percapita is also quite high compared to countries like Indonesia and others. Much of the money also spend to Military and they are among top 3 powerful nations on Earth.

 

[xizhimen]

Russia is quite rich, just look on their infrastructures and the GDP percapita is also quite high compared to countries like Indonesia and others.

China​

10,839

Russia​

9,972

List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[xizhimen]

Russia has a lot of gas and oil, but it doesn't make Russia a rich country, China's GDP per capita now is higher than Russia's, the top oil and gas production provinces in China are all below China's average in GDP and overall development.

 

[Gary]

But Why even with the drop, the birthrate of Xinjiang is still twice as high as China's average? can you explain this obvious fact?

how you ask??

I've explained that before. it's basic mathematic that when you're fewer in numbers such drop are amount to a more significant portion , Han Chinese (1.2B or so) dropping from 5.32 to 3.81 in a span of a year doesn't affect much. The Uyghurs (a people of a mere 8 million) dropping by half from 11.40% to 6.13% raises some serious question.

listen, it's like saying Philippines has a better economy than the US because the Philippines has 3x the economic growth of the US in 2016 (6% vs 1.64%). it is not.

I hope our readers are brighter than you.

 

[xizhimen]

how you ask??

I've explained that before. it's basic mathematic that when you're fewer in numbers such drop are amount to a more significant portion , Han Chinese (1.2B or so) dropping from 5.32 to 3.81 in a span of a year doesn't affect much. The Uyghurs (a people of a mere 8 million) dropping by half from 11.40% to 6.13% raises some serious question.

listen, it's like saying Philippines has a better economy than the US because the Philippines has 3x the economic growth of the US in 2016 (6% vs 1.64%). it is not.

I hope our readers are brighter than you.

I m not talking about the total population, but can you explain why Uighurs birthrate has been consistently much higher than Han ? even now their rate is still at least twice as high as Han people. Do you think it just happens naturally or there's some government policies have been always at work?

 

[Gary]

I m not talking about the total population, but can you explain why Uighurs birthrate has been consistently much higher than Han ? even now their rate is still at least twice as high as Han people. Do you think it just happens naturally or there's some government policies have been always at work?

trying to cover Beijing attrocities by pointing that Uyghurs has twice the birth rate of Han (6% to 3%) shows the absolute logical fallacies as well as desperation in my mind. When you're so much smaller in numbers the drop will be felt really hard , it's basically halved overnight

from 11.06% ==> 11.08% ==> 11.40% ==>6.13%,

Han birthrate for comparison are quite stable

from 4.96% ==> 5.86% ==> 5.32% ==3.81% and this is after 40 years of birth control.

you don't need that much IQ to understand this.

the same logic could be applied to GDP growth in %, no one is saying the Philippines is doing better economically than the US just because it's GDP growth (6.9%) are more than three times that of the US (1.68%) in the same year (2016).

so yes, there is only one explanation to this.

it's government hands at work by forced sterilization.

 

[xizhimen]

trying to cover Beijing attrocities by pointing that Uyghurs has twice the birth rate of Han (6% to 3%) shows the absolute logical fallacies as well as desperation in my mind. When you're so much smaller in numbers the drop will be felt really hard , it's basically halved overnight

from 11.06% ==> 11.08% ==> 11.40% ==>6.13%,

Han birthrate for comparison are quite stable

from 4.96% ==> 5.86% ==> 5.32% ==3.81% and this is after 40 years of birth control.

you don't need that much IQ to understand this.

the same logic could be applied to GDP growth in %, no one is saying the Philippines is doing better economically than the US just because it's GDP growth (6.9%) are more than three times that of the US (1.68%) in the same year (2016).

so yes, there is only one explanation to this.

it's government hands at work by forced sterilization.

can you explain why Uighurs birthrate has been consistently much higher than Han ? even now their rate is still at least twice as high as Han people. Do you think it just happens naturally or there's some government policies have been always at work?

 

[xizhimen]

The government has preferential policies towards minorities for decades, it's the Han people should complain, not Uighurs.

Affirmative action in China​

Affirmative action in China - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Gary]

can you explain why Uighurs birthrate has been consistently much higher than Han ? even now their rate is still at least twice as high as Han people. Do you think it just happens naturally or there's some government policies have been always at work?

dude, you keep parroting the same thing even when I've been explaining it to you.

he're I'll keep psoting it until somehow you understand

trying to cover Beijing attrocities by pointing that Uyghurs has twice the birth rate of Han (6% to 3%) shows the absolute logical fallacies as well as desperation in my mind. When you're so much smaller in numbers the drop will be felt really hard , it's basically halved overnight

from 11.06% ==> 11.08% ==> 11.40% ==>6.13%,

Han birthrate for comparison are quite stable

from 4.96% ==> 5.86% ==> 5.32% ==3.81% and this is after 40 years of birth control.

you don't need that much IQ to understand this.

the same logic could be applied to GDP growth in %, no one is saying the Philippines is doing better economically than the US just because it's GDP growth (6.9%) are more than three times that of the US (1.68%) in the same year (2016).

so yes, there is only one explanation to this.

it's government hands at work by forced sterilization.

 

[xizhimen]

"Influence on Chinese society​

The affirmative action of the Chinese government has been called into question of late, especially from the ethnic group of Han Chinese. Unfair policies on Chinese College entrance exams as well as human rights considered to be favoring the national minority have both been believed to be causing reverse discrimination in the mainland."

 

[xizhimen]

it's government hands at work by forced sterilization.

It's the Han people bear the brunt of this birth control policy, even now Uighurs still enjoy at least twice as high of the birthrate than Han, why you don't say China persecutes Han population and are in favor of Uighurs, the data shows this reality still exists even today.

 

[xizhimen]

China does have discrimination isssues , it's the institutionalised discriminatory laws and policies against Han people.

 

[Ardabas34]

dude, you keep parroting the same thing even when I've been explaining it to you.

You arent actually. He asks you why the birthrate is twice as more and you ''respond'' back saying it fell from 11 to 6. Thats clearly not what he asks. Why it fell from 11 to 6 is another subject of arguement and why its is as of now still twice as Han Chinese is another subject of arguement.

It's the Han people bear the brunt of this birth control policy, even now Uighurs still enjoy at least twice as high of the birthrate than Han, why you don't say China persecutes Han population and are in favor of Uighurs, the data shows this reality still exists even today.

How does China explain the drop on Uyghurs birth rate?

 

[Gary]

You arent actually. He asks you why the birthrate is twice as more and you ''respond'' back saying it fell from 11 to 6.

Umm don't you read the whole explanations ? I said that's because the Uyghurs are smaller in numbers.

 

[xizhimen]

How does China explain the drop on Uyghurs birth rate?

It's a drop nationwide in that year, the reason is being debated online， many blame the economic crisis. http://www.infzm.com/content/144142

what's more interesting is the sharp drop in birthrate happened all around the world in 2018, US experienced the same sudden drop too.

U.S. Births Fell To A 32-Year Low In 2018; CDC Says Birthrate Is In Record Slump​

U.S. Births Fell To A 32-Year Low In 2018; CDC Says Birthrate Is In Record Slump

"The birthrate is a barometer of despair," demographer Dowell Myers says. Not since 1986 has the U.S. seen so few babies born.

www.npr.org

Fertility Rate in U.S. Hit a Record Low in 2018​

Fertility Rate in U.S. Hit a Record Low in 2018 (Published 2019)

The rate of births fell again last year, according to new government data, extending a lengthy decline as women wait until they are older to have children.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Gary]

Sudden drop in USA only amount to 2% from the previous growth

Sudden drop in Xinjiang on the other hand had it growth rate halved (~50%), and this is from a population of less than 15 million.

this is extreme.