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as far as i see it, game over for Ukraina unless they got substantial support from the West which will not happen of course.
Us euros will just bark and bark and then put some worthless sanctions on people of no importance as Ukraine gets swallowed whole.
 

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Us euros will just bark and bark and then put some worthless sanctions on people of no importance as Ukraine gets swallowed whole.
I hope that people will understand this , usa and russian is working on that , they want Ukraine to be destroyed , because they dont want ukraine to reach a point of developing military technology since they have a great base for that , they were always silent , but now when they saw turkey and ukraine getting together things start to escalate , why ?! , Its obvious , because if turkey and ukraine will work together on weapons it will be a rival power to the west and a greater challenger to the arms sale .
I know that i am not a leader in this game , but i think turkey should stand still with ukraine because if ukraine lose and get occupied by russia turkey will be next .
I dont know why people dont understand this , mainly turkish people , they always talk about why we are going to war abroad , we have a problem we dpnt learn from the history .
I hope that soon we will see results and the system of the world should get changed because it is the same system after ww2 .
Its time to change
 
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With any new attemp of invasion RF will destroy its economy which Putin can't bare. Ukraine will be became independent and developed state as same as Poland achieved independence from Russia.russians know very well it. Just envying.
 

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I hope that people will understand this , usa and russian is working on that , they want Ukraine to be destroyed , because they dont want ukraine to reach a point of developing military technology since they have a great base for that , they were always silent , but now when they saw turkey and ukraine getting together things start to escalate , why ?! , Its obvious , because if turkey and ukraine will work together on weapons it will be a rival power to the west and a greater challenger to the arms sale .
I know that i am not a leader in this game , but i think turkey should stand still with ukraine because if ukraine lose and get occupied by russia turkey will be next .
I dont know why people dont understand this , mainly turkish people , they always talk about why we are going to war abroad , we have a problem we dpnt learn from the history .
I hope that soon we will see results and the system of the world should get changed because it is the same system after ww2 .
Its time to change

If the Russians ever dare to make a move on Turkey they would have their country halved with the chinese taking over Siberia. They are looking for smaller and weaker countries which they can advance on and these are in eastern europe. Its one thing to make a move on these, another to attempt the same for Turkey.
 
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Turkey must support Ukraine otherwise we have a problem. Where are those Bayraktars?
Currently there are 12 Bayraktars which wouldn't frighten Russians. Although Ukraine is to buy more 48 , drones couldnt change any situation against RF Army. Ukraine needs NATO's help.
 

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Zelensky is coming to Turkey today for tourism, defence cooperation and free trade agreement.
 

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Currently there are 12 Bayraktars which wouldn't frighten Russians. Although Ukraine is to buy more 48 , drones couldnt change any situation against RF Army. Ukraine needs NATO's help.

But you folks are also not brightest with giving away ur strategic arms. Now look at urself and the position ur in.
 

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What does those Donbass guys want? Total independence or a autonomy?

And why is Russia meddling in someone else's territory?

What if Ukraine supports Dagestan and Chechnya to break away from Russia?
 
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But you folks are also not brightest with giving away ur strategic arms. Now look at urself and the position ur in.
Which strategic weapons do Ukraine have and whom Ukraine refuses sharing them?
By the way I'm citizen of Turkish Republic so i don't belong the folks.
 

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Here my 5 cents.

When Putin invaded Georgia in August 2008, Crimea in February 2014, Donbass in August 2014, each time he used covert force concentration and surprise factor.

This time he deliberately shows his forces all over. So i think this time intention is to push US and Europe to negotiate with him, make some concessions.
 
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What does those Donbass guys want? Total independence or a autonomy?

And why is Russia meddling in someone else's territory?

What if Ukraine supports Dagestan and Chechnya to break away from Russia?
They don't want anything they are executing Putin's order. As you can imagine, what would Putin desires? Just reigning USSRs heritage.
 

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Ukraine has neither Nukes nor strategic bombers:DNukes were gifted to Russia and strategic bombers were destroyed long time ago.

And thats what I mean, they had these arms yet they gave them away or scrapped them, now look at the miserable position Ukraine finds itself in, would they be in this position if they didnt gave away these arms? Probably not.
 
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And thats what I mean, they had these arms yet they gave them away or scrapped them, now look at the miserable position Ukraine finds itself in, would they be in this position if they didnt gave away these arms? Probably not.

We are speaking about a country which has been independent just for 30 years.
how could a country liberated from Russian imperialism immediately have created a national consciousness?

As i said before , Ukraine follows the path as same as Poland became independent and developed with the help of USA/ EU/NATO.
 
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