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[Ryder]

Yes, the world is very globalised and this is normal which is why I could care less if the UAE uses a lot of foreign components on any military projects.

Honestly I come to accept it really.

I dont mind foreign parts but too bad sanctions and embargoes make me dislike having foreign parts.

Its a headache to be honest.

 

[Huelague]

Is TUBITAK working on a stealth UAV?

 

[TheInsider]

If it wasn't for Baykar Roketsan and Aselsan wouldn't even think of making those bombs.
Now who made things happen; those who could do but wouldn't do or that who made those who can do do their parts. The fact that Roketsan and Aselsan played their parts do not change the fact that without Baykar they would not bid an eyelid to make those small bombs. And Turkey would have to wait decades longer to have that capability if ever as if that capability was not acquired in a timely manner Turkey would not be able to find the strength to stand up against the opposing powers who would use FETO to block the ways Turkey can make it. It is only because that Baykar has been the spearhead to break the envelope and brought in the necessary component to make a whole that complementing it became inevitable for the rest of the industry.

Without Baykar we would be talking about how those kind of technologies is outside our reach and only two countries can have them.

Umm sorry but TAI Anka is the first armed drone of Turkey, not TB2.

 

[Ryder]

What would happen now if Vestel's owner Nazif Zorlu have given his granddaughter/ grandson to Erdoğan's family 20 years ago?

Seriously a dumb argument.

You just hate Bayraktar because his married to Erdogans daughter.

The guy was working on his stuff even before he got married into that family.

By the way for sure you are a hypocrite when high ranking politicians to rich businessman offering their daughters. Tell me will you reject it?? Of course not you wont reject it one bit.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

@Nein2.0 @UkroTurk 🚬

Stop it please!

 

[Zafer]

Umm sorry but TAI Anka is the first armed drone of Turkey, not TB2.

What difference did it make for Turkey?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Why is it so important which one was first?
Why do you care so much about how much percent is national in TB2?
Who's asking you lot to worry about these things?

Both are great products of our country with all their variants regardless of which came first, who's married to whom, and how much percent of them is indigenous.

 

[Ryder]

What difference did it make for Turkey?

Anka is a great machine it proved its worth many times alongside the TB2.

 

[Anmdt]

What difference did it make for Turkey?

Yes TAI ANKA didn't make any difference,
Especially when bayraktars were jammed in Syria, Anka didn't make any difference anything at all.
While there was a fact that Anka could fire more advanced Cirit and UMTAS even before than Bayraktar has fired MAM-L, which MAM-L would definitely be fired from ANKA for first if there wasn't "something", if the "first" really matters to you.
There is no point to discuss if you literally think Anka didn't make any difference and if you think the success is owed to Baykar. You can keep thinking that way and also wonder who have detected SAM site locations in Azerbaijan and Syria, and eventually in Lİbya. Really, why an Anka was dispatched to Libya after bayraktars? To play in the background?
Or you can spare sometime and meet with armed Anka-S, Anka-I and Armed Anka as well.

 

[Zafer]

Yes TAI ANKA didn't make any difference,
Especially when bayraktars were jammed in Syria, Anka didn't make any difference anything at all.
While there was a fact that Anka could fire more advanced Cirit and UMTAS even before than Bayraktar has fired MAM-L, which MAM-L would definitely be fired from ANKA for first if there wasn't "something", if the "first" really matters to you.
There is no point to discuss if you literally think Anka didn't make any difference and if you think the success is owed to Baykar. You can keep thinking that way and also wonder who have detected SAM site locations in Azerbaijan and Syria, and eventually in Lİbya. Really, why an Anka was dispatched to Libya after bayraktars? To play in the background?
Or you can spare sometime and meet with armed Anka-S, Anka-I and Armed Anka as well.

You don't see the point, the new found info that Anka was the first to be armed didn't make a difference until Bayraktar has already covered all the bases and Anka's contribution was too little too late. After Bayraktar had already made history if Anka didn't make any contribution all the resources that went into making it would be as good as wasted as it being no use at all. It had to be there when it was needed not half a decade later. When it finally appeared it had little use as a side role but not the lead role.

If Anka did what it was supposed to do there wouldn't even be a place for TB2.
Anka's half ass presence doesn't make it a champion, only the second runner.
It is not that Anka is a bad plane now but it had a painful lifeline not being in time for show.

 

[Anmdt]

You don't see the point, the new found info that Anka was the first to be armed didn't make a difference until Bayraktar has already covered all the bases and Anka's contribution was too little too late. After Bayraktar had already made history if Anka didn't make any contribution all the resources that went into making it would be as good as wasted as it being no use at all. It had to be there when it was needed not half a decade later. When it finally appeared it had little use as a side role but not the lead role.

If Anka did what it was supposed to do there wouldn't even be a place for TB2.
Anka's half ass presence doesn't make it a champion, only the second runner.
It is not that Anka is a bad plane now but it had a painful lifeline not being in time for show.

You can keep believing in these and obviously, there is nothing we can do to change your mind.

 

[Zafer]

You can keep believing in these and obviously, there is nothing we can do to change your mind.

That's right with all your weak arguments.

 

[Anmdt]

That's right with all your weak arguments.

I don't really have to convince you, neither i will waste my time try to convince a self-convinced person.

Baykar's special condition is they brought Turkey the capability to drop bombs on enemies which otherwise would probably take another decade for our industry to accomplish. Because they cared.

You have self-convinced yourself in this fact, and i think if a person has ever wrote the message above, such a false conclusion, i assume s/he is not recoverable.
And yet i gave a chance hoping you would look through Anka-I, Anka-SAR, Anka-S, armed Anka and its success in harsh conditions which bayraktar has failed. There is google, you can search and learn.
You also ignored the power of EW systems made by Aselsan and gave all success to bayraktar.
What else to be told beyond this point? You can believe in whatever you have convinced yourself to.

 

[Zafer]

Biased person defines yourself.
I have lived through everything second hand if not firsthand as they happened and I am not buying lame arguments. When there was FETÖ you couldn't expect more from Anka or any other project, they would fail even after some success, to kill Turkeys ambitions of freedom.

 

[Anmdt]

Biased person defines yourself.
I have lived through everything second hand if not firsthand as they happened and I am not buying lame arguments. When there was FETÖ you couldn't expect more from Anka or any other project, they would fail even after some success, to kill Turkeys ambitions of freedom.

FETO again even at an irrelevant subject to defend your argument? Allright, good evening
TAI has been working with drones even before than someone called that terrorist "hoca". So your arguments are not valid.
Luckily people back then in 2000s working on Anka were people who has never respected that charlatan cleric, who was well respected by someone.
FETO is not a matter of TAI vs Baykar childish comparison, it is matter of AKP and Erdogan and we shall discuss that in politics thread if you are interested.

 

[Sinan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1382006500852441090

Which Turk would be happy about an embargo on Turkish defense industry. If this is not intended for Turks but foreigners then why do you use Turkish in your tweet?

I really like Selçuk Bayraktar but this talking like a polarizing AKP official is beneath him.

 

[Turko]

@Nein2.0 @UkroTurk 🚬

Stop it please!

Me? The discussion had already started before i wrote. Again i got insultings to my question.

I shouldn't have pointed out the efforts of Vestel Defence .I've got it.

Without government support, Vestel Defence achieved huge success . The company deserves much more.

 

[BordoEnes]

FETO again even at an irrelevant subject to defend your argument? Allright, good evening
TAI has been working with drones even before than someone called that terrorist "hoca". So your arguments are not valid.
Luckily people back then in 2000s working on Anka were people who has never respected that charlatan cleric, who was well respected by someone.
FETO is not a matter of TAI vs Baykar childish comparison, it is matter of AKP and Erdogan and we shall discuss that in politics thread if you are interested.

Their perception of everything revolves around politics, about us vs them mentality, perpetual state of paranoia as attributed to their sultan.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Me? The discussion had already started before i wrote. Again i got insultings to my question.

I shouldn't have pointed out the efforts of Vestel Defence .I've got it.

Without government support, Vestel Defence achieved huge success . The company deserves much more.

Relax! It's a friendly request. I'm not pointing any fingers. I just want you to avoid getting too personal with each other.

Also @Zafer & @anmdt.
Discuss it. Share your opinion but leave each other out of it.
Please!

 

[Tornadoss]

If it wasn't for Baykar Roketsan and Aselsan wouldn't even think of making those bombs.
Now who made things happen; those who could do but wouldn't do or that who made those who can do do their parts. The fact that Roketsan and Aselsan played their parts do not change the fact that without Baykar they would not bid an eyelid to make those small bombs. And Turkey would have to wait decades longer to have that capability if ever as if that capability was not acquired in a timely manner Turkey would not be able to find the strength to stand up against the opposing powers who would use FETO to block the ways Turkey can make it. It is only because that Baykar has been the spearhead to break the envelope and brought in the necessary component to make a whole that complementing it became inevitable for the rest of the industry.

Without Baykar we would be talking about how those kind of technologies is outside our reach and only two countries can have them.

It's a shame that you downplay the efforts of engineers of Roketsan Aselsan and TAI because of your favoritism. This comment is totally absurd from beginning to end mixing up Feto in the middle. And I really wonder what were you thinking of fetullah gülen pre-2012.