Mild and sustained responce which actually is wise, yelling and ripping hair from head woud be something that Biden wanted to provoce with his initiative.
Yok ölmüyoruz ama biz yapmadığımız bir suçu neden üstlenelim? Sessiz kalırsak kabul etmiş oluyoruz. Adamlar kalkıp yarın Türkiyeden toprak ve Tazminatlar isteyecek! Buna karşı ABDye ve Dünyaya açık açık karşılık ve açıklık vermek mecburiyetindeyiz. Bizi resmen Soykırım ile suçluyorlar. Ne alaka?!
No, we don't die, but why should accept a crime that we haven't done? If we remain silent, we accept it. The men will wake up tomorrow and aim for territorial compensation from Turkey! Against this, we have to give a clear response and clarity to the USA and the world. They officially accuse us of Genocide. What's the deal ?!
I accept your point from that post but how would that respond look like exactly? Calm diplomatic responce is far better but with writting down into the book of another stabb in the back from ally and move on to the position in future were you will be in position to demand formal apology for such acts and rejection of diplomatic ties, etc...without major consequences. Now you are simply not as long as i wish you are.Nope, disagree, the man will not stop, his admin are obama folks who caused quite a lot of mischief, rather draw a big fat red line rather then mumbling soft responses.
also good answer I read on reddit:
I accept your point from that post but how would that respond look like exactly? Calm diplomatic responce is far better but with writting down into the book of another stabb in the back from ally and move on to the position in future were you will be in position to demand formal apology for such acts and rejection of diplomatic ties, etc...without major consequences. Now you are simply not as long as i wish you are.
Now the americans battle for their remaining influence, we could be the final trigger to finally remove them from the throne, also a remainder why a big fat red line needs to come
Tell this to those who make religion a big deal here, its not me.You literally have secularists and islamists around the world supporting and recognising this genocide bs.
Isnt time us Turks stick together??
Secularism isnt a western value, its a universal idea, many non western countries are secular too.i know but that was not the point and that is other part of equation. point was to point out this thing to the people who thinks that all reason, moral and every other value is dictated by west, lot of them here are on pdf.
How yes no...., you are not secular until you gat stamp amd label from westSecularism isnt a western value, its a universal idea, many non western countries are secular too.
After all countries recognize it then finally it will be forgotten..
If I were Turkey, I would build a huge memorial for it, sorry for what happened (intercommunal conflict) where we have no responsibility as Republic. In the end, those armenians were citizens of Ottoman Empire not Armenia, Turkey should steal the role.
Well if Armenians want to rerun to Anatolia they should let the Turks return to irevan khanate.After the armenians get a apology they will demand properties after that they will demand land.
By this rate they will say we have to return back to the Central Asian Steppes.
Why should we bend the knee to a bunch of losers?? I think Ataturk made it clear that this land belongs to the Turks and the Armenians have no rights here.
Ataturk once shot down a argument of the so called Armenian genocide by saying that the Armenian gangs attacked first while the Muslims defended themselves.
Ataturk served in the Caucasus front and in the Turkish independance war saw the destruction of Turkish villages by the Greeks and Armenians.
I think his words have more legitimacy than Taner akcam, Osman pamuk or elif shafak.
Secularism in Turkey was defined by our Great leader Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. As a proud nation we don't need approval from anyone.How yes no...., you are not secular until you gat stamp amd label from west
We will not be sorry for something that didn't happened.After all countries recognize it then finally it will be forgotten..
If I were Turkey, I would build a huge memorial for it, sorry for what happened (intercommunal conflict) where we have no responsibility as Republic. In the end, those armenians were citizens of Ottoman Empire not Armenia, Turkey should steal the role.
Well said,why give it so much attention?Why do you guys care? What difference does it make, we dont recognize it and thats the end of the story. Dont make a fuzz about it for the millionth time.