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personally you have to leave religion out of geopolitics. When you allow a romanticised view of the world to decide political decisions, you will in most cases end up the loser.

Turkey is surrounded by many enemies, these include Greece, South Cyprus, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Iran, the Gulf states, Armenia, Russia, half of Libya. Turkey couldnt really afford to also go against Israel. It was a dumb move.

If regional muslim majority states operated under cold hard logic, they would have united long ago. You would have seen something similar to the european union. But it operates under emotion and short term regional vision.
 
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Most of the Jews sent to Palestine from Europe are Ashkenazi Jews who are mainly European converts (Germans, Poles, Russians, Greeks etc.. ) to Judaism

The modern Jewish National Identity and ideology aka Zionism was started by these European Jewish converts.

Only Middle Eastern Jews like the Mizrahim are actual semites

The real joke is most of those Ashkanazi jews exist because of the Khazar Turks. If Turks in eastern Europe don't create a Jewish state, how many Jews would exist today?


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geopolitically speaking it makes no sense whatsoever for Turkey to be against Isreal not when nearly all middle eastern nations are against Turkey. But when you involve religion in politics you always do dumb things.

However, Isreal has grand ambitions that includes eventually annexing part of Turkey. That must always be taken into account when dealing with them. The Russians would use their misery against them and extract as many favours as possible from both sides like they did with Assad.

Absolute BS

Not gonna happen. Israel cannot even annex the Sinai because the Human cost would be too much over the long run. Most North American Jews have no intention to immigrate to Middle East and because of that Israel will not expand from it's current position.
 

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The real joke is most of those Ashkanazi jews exist because of the Khazar Turks. If Turks in eastern Europe don't create a Jewish state, how many Jews would exist today?


Khazars are not really recognised as a Jewish empire despite some rulers converting to Judaism.

Empire had no official religion as you had rulers who were Christian, Jewish, Shamanist/Animist beliefs, Tengrism along with Islam.

Some Khazar rulers may have converted to Islam according to some Arab sources explains the Empires use of Muslim Mercs.

Always been a syncretic empire regarding religious beliefs.
 

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Absolute BS

Not gonna happen. Israel cannot even annex the Sinai because the Human cost would be too much over the long run. Most North American Jews have no intention to immigrate to Middle East and because of that Israel will not expand from it's current position.

I use to believe in that Greater Israel myth.

Israel is going form some empire from Turkey to the Nile.

Irony is Israel is surrounded by Arabs what is the point in taking territory when you will just be getting more Arabs into the country?

Explains why they gave the Sinai back.
 

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Absolute BS

Not gonna happen. Israel cannot even annex the Sinai because the Human cost would be too much over the long run. Most North American Jews have no intention to immigrate to Middle East and because of that Israel will not expand from it's current position.

These plans don't happen over night. PKKistan is part of the balkanisation process. Just yesterday Turkey was facing a complete pkkistan across her entire border. I'm not saying they will succeed but the plans are there and they are working towards them.

Just read about the yinon plan of the seventies. Iraq balkanised, syria balkanised, hopes to balkanise iran and Turkey. Likewise to take the east med from Turkey. Its happening step by step.

Its an incremental process. The arabs of Isreal have almost been totally erased from that land and it took less then a hundred years, what will the next hundred bring?
 

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Khazars are not really recognised as a Jewish empire despite some rulers converting to Judaism.

Empire had no official religion as you had rulers who were Christian, Jewish, Shamanist/Animist beliefs, Tengrism along with Islam.

Some Khazar rulers may have converted to Islam according to some Arab sources explains the Empires use of Muslim Mercs.

Always been a syncretic empire regarding religious beliefs.

The other argument is that the state became Jewish and the region filled with jews. Naturally zionism would wants to hide this history because it destroys the idea that the white jews of today who have many Asiatic features are historically connected to the land.

But the bulgar Turks also became Christians and become completely assimilated into the region. So its not unheard of the Turks created empires in different religions.
 

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Khazars are not really recognised as a Jewish empire despite some rulers converting to Judaism.

Empire had no official religion as you had rulers who were Christian, Jewish, Shamanist/Animist beliefs, Tengrism along with Islam.

Some Khazar rulers may have converted to Islam according to some Arab sources explains the Empires use of Muslim Mercs.

Always been a syncretic empire regarding religious beliefs.

Some Khazars were Jews. But they did not play a major role in development of Ashkenazim as Conspiracy theorists like Sheikh Imran Hosein suggest.

Otherwise Jews today would be known as a nomadic horse warrior type people with eyes like a Tatar instead of money lenders and accountants.

After the Russians destroyed the Khazar Khanate the leftovers simply ended up either merging with other Turkic groups and some of the Jewish Khazars ended up mixing with EE Jewish Communities - but not enough to influence European Jewry as a whole.
 
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How IDF UAVs can't dedect those movements and vehicles?


Moreover those " heroes" cover themselves inside residents, using human shield.

@500 Could you tell us please if it was in Gaza or in Israel.
 
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I use to believe in that Greater Israel myth.

Israel is going form some empire from Turkey to the Nile.

Irony is Israel is surrounded by Arabs what is the point in taking territory when you will just be getting more Arabs into the country?

Explains why they gave the Sinai back.

yes

Vast majority of Jews in the West have no intention to permanently settle in Israel & Mid East and face war like situations every few years or so.

People would rather live in areas of safety and security.
 

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The other argument is that the state became Jewish and the region filled with jews. Naturally zionism would wants to hide this history because it destroys the idea that the white jews of today who have many Asiatic features are historically connected to the land.

But the bulgar Turks also became Christians and become completely assimilated into the region. So its not unheard of the Turks created empires in different religions.

hahaha

More Sheikh Imran Hosein BS

Khazars played a very little role in the development of European Jewry.
 

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Its not about the jews. Jesus. Its about great powers using the jews to balkanise and dominate the region. Jews are as much a victim in this game as the arabs are.

Just like the PKK kurds became the heroes in the western narrative since it helps divide the region, the jews became the heroes in the western narrative because it helps destabilise the region.

Just like the great powers conspired to divide the Ottoman empire up, you guys back then would have been like its no more then a myth, well here we are. The game of "imperialism" never ends.
 

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Vast majority of Jews in the West have no intention to permanently settle in Israel & Mid East and face war like situations every few years or so.

People would rather live in areas of safety and security.

To dominate a region you don't have to settle in it en mass. Otherwise the British and French couldn't have taken over Afria and much of east Asia.
 

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