Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Ravager]

nice asset

Definitely ....

If we really want to counter the red dragon in a hard manner, there's no way we can do it alone. The only solution would be to pick a side and join a coalition of similar minded countries.

Without some serious incident as an impetus that step would be hard to be implemented .

 

[Lordimperator]

Definitely ....


Without some serious incident as an impetus that step would be hard to be implemented .

Ladakh Indonesian/ natuna versions

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1407579136739012608

 

[FPXAllen]

Japan signed a deal for 8 Mogami (out of 22 planned). The plan is to produce a pair each year.

With this speed, we might see the launching of our first Mogami soon.

(it's even sooner IF after the 4th Mogami they decided to reallocate the next 4 to us)

Judging from the way they 'wrapped' arms export as 'joint development / production', it might be that one of the first signs if the Mogami deal with us really got through will be a number of Indonesian shipbuilder engineers to be sent to Japan.

 

[the popo]

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Defence Review on Instagram: "Manakah yang lebih unggul? By @defenceview Pertanyaan yang paling sering muncul akhir² ini adalah lebih bagus Iver atau FREMM? Pertama-tama, Iver adalah frigate untuk MEF 2 sedangkan FREMM adalah frigate untuk MEF

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if the rumor is true..

Iver will be 48 VLS Sylver A50 ---> AAW (and will be designated "Light Destroyer")
Fremm could be ASW or Multipurpose

and underwater procurement same as wishlist between U214 or scorpene

 

[Lordimperator]

Iver will be 48 VLS Sylver A50

Hoaa, same number of VLS as Horizon class frigate/destroyer. Hmm, no wonder they want to strecth out the iver length

 

[Soman45]

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Defence Review on Instagram: "Manakah yang lebih unggul? By @defenceview Pertanyaan yang paling sering muncul akhir² ini adalah lebih bagus Iver atau FREMM? Pertama-tama, Iver adalah frigate untuk MEF 2 sedangkan FREMM adalah frigate untuk MEF

3,597 likes, 337 comments - defenceview on June 22, 2021: "Manakah yang lebih unggul? By @defenceview Pertanyaan yang paling sering muncul akhir² ini adalah lebih bagus Iver atau FREMM? Per...".

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if the rumor is true..

Iver will be 48 VLS Sylver A50 ---> AAW (and will be designated "Light Destroyer")
Fremm could be ASW or Multipurpose

and underwater procurement same as wishlist between U214 or scorpene

it's like what @Madokafc said few days ago iver with 48 VLS became AAW destroyer

 

[Captain Wales]

Hoaa, same number of VLS as Horizon class frigate/destroyer. Hmm, no wonder they want to strecth out the iver length

well, iver can be fitted with 48 vls without the need for stretching it by placing 16 vls on the front where 2nd 76mm gun are now (from one of the concept proposal for royal canadian navy).

but i think the navy wanted to put a gun (ciws?) over there, that is where the option to stretch the ship come.

 

[Umigami]

it's like what @Madokafc said few days ago iver with 48 VLS became AAW destroyer
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We need Sylver A70 for SCALP Naval.

 

[Lordimperator]

We need Sylver A70 for SCALP Naval.

Placed it on fremm maybe?, SCALP Naval is only operated by Marine Nationale right? They removed a70 in egyptian fremm french ver

 

[Captain Wales]

We need Sylver A70 for SCALP Naval.

if we buy scalp, are we gonna got the nerf out version or not?

with MTCR and all of that sort of thing

 

[Umigami]

if we buy scalp, are we gonna got the nerf out version or not?

with MTCR and all of that sort of thing

If it's me, I chose smaller warhead but keep the range.

 

[Van Kravchenko]

it's like what @Madokafc said few days ago iver with 48 VLS became AAW destroyer
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Now, i wonder what electronic suite will be installed on ID Navy Customized IH.

Did ya hear any leak @Madokafc - sensei?

 

[Umigami]

Now, i wonder what electronic suite will be installed on ID Navy Customized IH.

Did ya hear any leak @Madokafc - sensei?

Leonardo solutions I guess.

 

[NEKO]

I think there is no plan to buy LACM (at least for now), only surface to surface anti ship missile.

 

[Madokafc]

I think there is no plan to buy LACM (at least for now), only surface to surface anti ship missile.

Sure?

 

[NEKO]

Sure?

Yes, But I hope that I am wrong about this. Hohoho

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Leonardo solutions I guess.

Could have Possibility to be ID version of PAAMS, hope thay retain the Smart L, combined with Selex Epaws i think its more than enough to consider as formidable asset.


Again, who knows. This 48 cells of VLS already shocked me.

 

[Umigami]

Which one is more suitable for IH and Fremm? Kronos dual band or Kronos grand naval?

 

[Madokafc]

Which one is more suitable for IH and Fremm? Kronos dual band or Kronos grand naval?

Hopefully using both as they are different in task in nature (IH as AAW based platform) and our FREMM more on the general purpose Frigates