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[Umigami]

Hopefully using both as they are different in task in nature (IH as AAW based platform) and our FREMM more on the general purpose Frigates

Means our fremm just need to use bergamini class general purpose config, doesn't need to be 32 vls.

 

[Parry Brima]

Yes, But I hope that I am wrong about this. Hohoho

It's part of the Gripen and AEW&C package.

Probably

 

[Lordimperator]

It's part of the Gripen and AEW&C package.

Probably

Taurus lacm?

 

[Umigami]

Hopefully using both as they are different in task in nature (IH as AAW based platform) and our FREMM more on the general purpose Frigates

...and Kronos dual already using C and X band. We don’t need to use both in the same boat.

 

[Umigami]

It's part of the Gripen and AEW&C package.

Probably

Arepe mbengkel neng endi?

 

[Madokafc]

...and Kronos dual already using C and X band. We don’t need to use both in the same boat.

That's not what i mean, one type of radar for each type of Ship. Kronos Grand for the IH i mean and the other Kronos Dual Band with GP config minus ABM capability for the FREMM. Though i can be wrong as negotiation for our FREMM final design config still being discussed

 

[Madokafc]

Means our fremm just need to use bergamini class general purpose config, doesn't need to be 32 vls.

32 VLS is a must though

 

[Umigami]

32 VLS is a must though

From him?

 

[Ravager]

From him?

We must look far into the future ! Future possibilities contiengencies and what not . Bit like a condom there ....

Better have it when we not need it than need it but don't have it .

 

[trishna_amrta]

Hopefully using both as they are different in task in nature (IH as AAW based platform) and our FREMM more on the general purpose Frigates

Means our fremm just need to use bergamini class general purpose config, doesn't need to be 32 vls.

That's not what i mean, one type of radar for each type of Ship. Kronos Grand for the IH i mean and the other Kronos Dual Band with GP config minus ABM capability for the FREMM. Though i can be wrong as negotiation for our FREMM final design config still being discussed

If I to hazard a guess. I would say version of Bergamini will be in the same role & capability to that of the Constellation class, albeit using electronics + missiles

 

[Umigami]

We must look far into the future ! Future possibilities contiengencies and what not . Bit like a condom there ....

Better have it when we not need it than need it but don't have it .

Well yeah, but I prefer nakadashi

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1407666853770665989

 

[Lordimperator]

32 VLS is a must though

There is a design of improved Bergamini class with 32 vls, with 2 ciws on each side,

 

[this is crunch]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1407666853770665989

Royal Navy ship off Crimea sparks diplomatic row between Russia and UK

MoD and Moscow disagree over whether shots were fired at destroyer near disputed territory

www.theguardian.com

hmmmm

 

[Van Kravchenko]

If I to hazard a guess. I would say version of Bergamini will be in the same role & capability to that of the Constellation class, albeit using electronics + missiles

Get some downgrade then ?

 

[trishna_amrta]

Get some downgrade then ?

I won't say that system is a downgrade compare to their counterpart. It's about what role we intend to use the platform

 

[Madokafc]

Get some downgrade then ?

Hell no, US Navy is just more special and have more technology

 

[Madokafc]

 

[Madokafc]

 

[Madokafc]

2020-2024 programme had already set 20 Billion US Dollar budget loan, that's actually enough to provide funding for many major program already being announced like Fremm 4,9 Billion US Dollar, Rafale around six to seven Billion US Dollar, MRTT around 0,7 Billion US Dollar, that's still fucking eight Billion US Dollar left for shopping spree. And now not to mention the government willing to give more leeway beside those already set loan budget for MoD to be spent to acquire many critical technology and weapon system.

And why government willing to spend more beside those 20 Billion US Dollar of MEF III loan budget, that's because this admin actually had left many homework from previous MoD who failed to utilized MEF phase 2 budget so greatly. And there is several failed or delayed Mef phase 2 program like military satelite, Fighter acquisition program, LIFT acquisition program, modernization of T/A50 i , Submarine, Frigates, tracked IFV for army, armor for Marine and so on.