TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

Strong AI

Contributor
Messages
502
Reactions
20 2,189
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
SOM M? Is it SOM J?
GÖKHAN

20240223_235025.jpg
 

Anmdt

Experienced member
Naval Specialist
Professional
Messages
5,157
Solutions
2
Reactions
97 22,991
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
SOM M? Is it SOM J?
GÖKHAN

View attachment 65907
M should be for Mine. I think after succesfull trials of Malaman, they are incorporating this into SOM and UCA.

Although, speculating this based on the information shared years ago that a mine-carrying SOM was envisaged. Could as well be a word play like SOM-Milli, to indicate indigeneous engine, or SOM-MMU to indicate new SOM-J fitting internal bays of MMU.
 

uçuyorum

Contributor
Messages
727
Reactions
9 1,190
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
M should be for Mine. I think after succesfull trials of Malaman, they are incorporating this into SOM and UCA.

Although, speculating this based on the information shared years ago that a mine-carrying SOM was envisaged. Could as well be a word play like SOM-Milli, to indicate indigeneous engine, or SOM-MMU to indicate new SOM-J fitting internal bays of MMU.
Yes, the J stood for JSF, now it should be SOM MMU, basically.
 

Khagan1923

Contributor
Messages
895
Reactions
12 3,859
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
M should be for Mine. I think after succesfull trials of Malaman, they are incorporating this into SOM and UCA.

Although, speculating this based on the information shared years ago that a mine-carrying SOM was envisaged. Could as well be a word play like SOM-Milli, to indicate indigeneous engine, or SOM-MMU to indicate new SOM-J fitting internal bays of MMU.
What happened to SOM-C? Wasn't that supposed to have Anti-Ship capabilities?

SOM-M maybe a further development of SOM-J? (LongerRange, more stealthy design?)
 

Anmdt

Experienced member
Naval Specialist
Professional
Messages
5,157
Solutions
2
Reactions
97 22,991
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
What happened to SOM-C? Wasn't that supposed to have Anti-Ship capabilities?

SOM-M maybe a further development of SOM-J? (LongerRange, more stealthy design?)
SAGE has turned into a blackhole of information recently for any on-going project, last it was told both SOM-C and J ongoes data-link enabled surface engagement trials.

Might be SOM - Miniature as well, but hope it is not referring to Miniature.
 

UkroTurk

Experienced member
Land Warfare Specialist
Professional
Messages
2,297
Reactions
28 4,085
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
SAGE has turned into a blackhole of information recently for any on-going project, last it was told both SOM-C and J ongoes data-link enabled surface engagement trials.

Might be SOM - Miniature as well, but hope it is not referring to Miniature.
What do C and J stand for?
 

uçuyorum

Contributor
Messages
727
Reactions
9 1,190
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
What do C and J stand for?
J is Joint of F35 Joint Strike Fighter program, you can see stuff like JDAM, JSOW, JSM. SOM was made with Lockeed and meant to be used with F35, it turned out dimensions of plane and munition didn't match after design went on and they made a J version. It was never integrated so now we said we want to put in it KAAN. I think M is just a rename of J because why name it after JSF if it won't be used with it.
 

UkroTurk

Experienced member
Land Warfare Specialist
Professional
Messages
2,297
Reactions
28 4,085
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
J is Joint of F35 Joint Strike Fighter program, you can see stuff like JDAM, JSOW, JSM. SOM was made with Lockeed and meant to be used with F35, it turned out dimensions of plane and munition didn't match after design went on and they made a J version. It was never integrated so now we said we want to put in it KAAN. I think M is just a rename of J because why name it after JSF if it won't be used with it.
So M refers MMU like J is for JSM.
 

Sanchez

Experienced member
Moderator
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
1,654
Reactions
59 7,514
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey

boredaf

Contributor
Messages
972
Solutions
1
Reactions
11 2,741
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
Nation of origin
Turkey
This is simply magnificent. Awesome capability that only so few have. Tolun will keep growing with what's learned from GBU-39s we get from US.
This a great option for our planes to have, but, I also love the fact that we have 2 different drones that can also use this. In fact, Aksungur might be able to carry 8 instead of 4.

Edit: I was wrong about Aksungur. Its inner weapon station can apparently carry 500 kgs, which would be enough for 4 Tolun + Sadak, but TAI lists its payload capacity as "750 kgs +" I misremembered it as being 1500 kgs. So, Aksungur is out in that regard, unless TAI massively underreported its payload capacity.
 
Last edited:

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom