TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

Khagan1923 said:

More Refugees probably as always.

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And more brow-beating about human rights and how we're not European plus something worthless about visas

EU Customs Union revamp is the minimum we should ask for and participation in EU procurement and defense projects.

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EU Customs Union revamp is the minimum we should ask for and participation in EU procurement and defense projects.

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This government has never shown to be able to get the maximum out of its positions be it regarding the EU, Middle East or Northern Africa. Let's not be delusional, as long as certain people's pockets get filled they will come to an understanding even if it hurts the interests of the average citizens of this Republic.

Any regular Government would demand participation in several military projects (Future Logistical Airlifts, MPA and so on) as well as visa free travel and economic perks. What we will get is some agreement signed behind closed doors with "aides" present who don't even own a Turkish Citizenship. And the details will get out years later when the average Turk has to live with the consequences.

Sadly couldn't get past the paywall, but this is interesting:

"Ukraine, Europe is looking for partners: Turkish-led force possible​

Prime Minister Costa probes the availability of India, Japan, Canada, Australia for the peacekeeping contingent. Erdogan, who has never broken with Moscow, is a candidate for command"


New Trumpian order is forcing us to get closer to EU.

Very interesting
interview with Vladimir Socor, Senior Fellow at the Jamestown Foundation in Washington and a world-renowned expert on the former Soviet republics and Russia:
"Trump will surrender Ukraine and Eastern Europe to Putin"

- Moscow continues the war against Ukraine, Washington stops military aid to Kyiv, the US turns away from the EU, Europe says goodbye to America in NATO, Russia offers the US untold natural resources, and France seems to be becoming Europe's nuclear shield. Agree, a month ago, few could believe that this was even possible, right?

- You should not look for common sense in the decisions made by Trump and his entourage. The US president simply has no strategy. The concepts of Trump and strategy are antonyms! Trump does not know how to perceive the situation in the world and cannot form any strategic line. In principle, he is an uneducated person, he does not understand the history, geostrategy and culture of Europe. The current US president acts intuitively, and his views can change daily.

- What about the advisers? Usually, the White House owners had such knowledgeable consultants as James Baker, Henry Kissinger or Zbigniew Brzezinski…

- Unlike his first term, Trump does not have independent advisers now. During his first presidential term, he was surrounded by bright personalities - combat generals, experienced diplomats and even businessmen who could be proud of their successes in life and career. These were independent and strong personalities, such as Generals James Mattis and McMaster, Kelly, CIA Director Mike Pompeo, National Security Advisor John Bolton… They were at the peak of their careers. Now Trump is surrounded by weak middle-level people who have not had significant success in their personal careers. They are dependent on Trump, and their activity consists of deep admiration for their boss.

Throughout their term, they will compete with each other over who will bow down to the occupant of the Oval Office and how much. Trump's team members have neither the authority nor the desire to advise the president on anything right. And most importantly, they have absolutely no courage to say that their boss is wrong. And Trump is wrong several times a day...

Sanchez said:

Sadly couldn't get past the paywall, but this is interesting:

"Ukraine, Europe is looking for partners: Turkish-led force possible​

Prime Minister Costa probes the availability of India, Japan, Canada, Australia for the peacekeeping contingent. Erdogan, who has never broken with Moscow, is a candidate for command"

Ucraina, l’Europa va in cerca di partner: possibile una forza a guida turca

Il presidente del Consiglio Costa sonda le disponibilità di India, Giappone, Canada, Australia per il contingente di pace. Erdogan, che non ha mai rotto con Mo…

www.repubblica.it

New Trumpian order is forcing us to get closer to EU.

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Ukraine, Europe seeks partners: Turkish-led force possible
by our correspondent Claudio Tito
Ukraine, Europe goes in search of partners: possible Turkish-led force

Council President Costa probes the availability of India, Japan, Canada, Australia for the peacekeeping force. Erdogan, who has never broken with Moscow, is a candidate for the leadership

BRUSSELS - Broadening the ‘coalition of the willing’ to include allies outside the European Union and even countries on other continents. Also studying the possibility of entrusting the command of the peacekeeping contingent to one of these states. Knowing that in ‘pole position’ could be Turkey. The day after the European Council gave the go-ahead to the ‘Rearm Europe’ package prepared by Ursula von der Leyen, attentions shifted to the ways in which the composition of the force in charge of guaranteeing a possible truce between Russia and Ukraine could be carried out.
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Dossier - War trails

The heads of the European institutions - von der Leyen, Costa and Kallas - informed the leaders of Turkey, the United Kingdom, Canada, Norway and Iceland of the ‘important decisions taken yesterday’ in a video conference. ‘Our cooperation with like-minded NATO partners,’ the President of the European Council emphasised, ’is crucial for international security, for Ukraine, to intensify our joint defence efforts. Together with our partners in Europe, across the Atlantic and beyond, we must work to support Ukraine and ensure a just and lasting peace'.
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But the central point now is above all to prove that it is possible to organise a peacekeeping contingent without US participation. The prerequisite for all the contacts and simulations experienced in recent days is the Kremlin's position, which at the moment does not want to give the green light to an EU-only presence in Ukraine. The talks with Great Britain, Turkey, Canada, Norway and Iceland have this as their first objective. But it will probably not be enough. In fact, talks are underway to involve countries as far away as Japan, Australia and India. This is seen as the way to ‘appease’ Moscow and at the same time have a large pool of soldiers. Considering that this interposition force is unlikely to be less than 40,000 men.

Not only that. At this stage Putin has made it explicitly clear that he would not accept a leadership role from France and Great Britain. The only non-European country (not in the political sense) capable of taking on such a role is then Turkey. These are ongoing reflections. It is no coincidence that the leader of Ankara yesterday openly confirmed his readiness for direct engagement: ‘I would like to stress that we are ready to make any contribution, including hosting the negotiation process, to the establishment of a just, lasting and honourable peace in Ukraine’. In his opinion, as France's Macron had proposed, we need ‘a truce as soon as possible’. He then gave a clear signal to Brussels: ‘European security is not the exclusive business of the countries of the Union’.

It must be considered that Turkey is a NATO member but has maintained excellent relations with the Kremlin. And while ruling out a role for the Atlantic Alliance, Erdogan's troops can represent a mediation between the needs of one side and the other. One of the reported drawbacks, if anything, concerns the bad relations with Greece and Cyprus.

Any operation, however, needs two preconditions: Russian guarantees not to promote other attacks; the American willingness to ‘back-up’ the mission, i.e. to ensure the military logistics part. ‘It is in our mutual interest,’ Erdogan explained, ‘to plan all stages of European security with Turkey. It is also important to maintain the transatlantic connection and get the support of our American ally'.

London Premier Keir Starmer also judges the EU decision as ‘a historic step forward’. However, setting up the operation will not be easy. It will take at least three months to get it going and several billion in funding.

https://www.lesclesdumoyenorient.co...rica-3-3-A-military-presence-that-is-now.html

Great article on Turkey's growing influence in Africa.

We are not „good enough „ to live equal with the Europeans, but good enough to die for them. I say, no thanks

Only accepted the Ottoman Empire as apart of Europe in the 1800s to counter the Russian Empire.

Now today its back again LOL

They are accepting Turkiye as apart of Europe to counter the Russians. After our use has been passed they will throw us out.

After Trump's Second Appearance at the White House, the French Are Starting to Suspiciously Think Something Is Wrong

"Turkey, Once a 'Cumbersome' Partner, Has Become Essential to a Weakened European Union
By arming Ukraine with one hand and dealing with Russia with the other, without applying Western sanctions against Moscow, Ankara is playing a carefully crafted balancing act.
On February 17, President Emmanuel Macron brought together seven European leaders, the heads of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and community bodies at the Elysée Palace to reaffirm their support for Ukraine. Several European Union (EU) officials expressed their frustration at not having been invited. But one country in particular was conspicuous by its absence: Turkey, NATO's second-largest military power"...

Sanchez said:

Sadly couldn't get past the paywall, but this is interesting:

"Ukraine, Europe is looking for partners: Turkish-led force possible​

Prime Minister Costa probes the availability of India, Japan, Canada, Australia for the peacekeeping contingent. Erdogan, who has never broken with Moscow, is a candidate for command"

Ucraina, l’Europa va in cerca di partner: possibile una forza a guida turca

Il presidente del Consiglio Costa sonda le disponibilità di India, Giappone, Canada, Australia per il contingente di pace. Erdogan, che non ha mai rotto con Mo…

www.repubblica.it

New Trumpian order is forcing us to get closer to EU.

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Tukish Armed Forced will be the backbone of the new European Army, i told this a lot of times.

Everything i told, came out. You guys cant see the big picture.

Scott Summers said:

Tukish Armed Forced will be the backbone of the new European Army, i told this a lot of times.

Everything i told, came out. You guys cant see the big picture.

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EU army is a nightmare situation. Because most likely Turkiye will be kept outside of it and secondly it will be most likely be deployed against Turkiye. As grim as it sounds when Europeans are killing each other, the non-white man becomes safer.

All NATO members except the United States have been invited to today's summit of military representatives in Paris.

Iskander said:

All NATO members except the United States have been invited to today's summit of military representatives in Paris.

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Europeans should be careful, one day the Americans may side with Russia against them. When the USA and Russia were working together in Syria against Turkiye astute minds in europe should have questioned whether or not that could happen to them one day.

Collectively the EU has the potential to challenge the USA especially if Turkiye was in it, Russia as seen with their disastrous invasion of Ukraine is nothing compared to the USA. This may just be another case of "real politic" support the weaker enemy against the major one.

Scott Summers said:

Tukish Armed Forced will be the backbone of the new European Army, i told this a lot of times.

Everything i told, came out. You guys cant see the big picture.

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We should act independent from the European army as the only country with ''good'' relations with both sides.
They just want to use us as cannon fodder.

TR_123456 said:

We should act independent from the European army as the only country with ''good'' relations with both sides.
They just want to use us as cannon fodder.

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I agree, Turkey should not allow itself to be spun and ingratiated by the French and Germans. We have to act tough and on a purely utilitarian basis, we have the upper hand. Block formations are out, Turkey must be able to talk and act with everyone.

Honestly we can defend ourselves, we should if at all cooperate on trade & partly with the defense industry everything else is dangerous because we do not belong to it, and never will.

TR_123456 said:

We should act independent from the European army as the only country with ''good'' relations with both sides.
They just want to use us as cannon fodder.

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Yes and no!
We should carry a policy of duality. Just like we have been doing with Russia and Ukraine.
Stay independent. But at the same time give them limited hope that we are supportive of their cause. Use them without committing too deeply to rock the boat, as in Ukraine situation. Ukraine knows we are on their side. We support their unitary pre 2014 borders. Yet we have good relations with Russia.

Yasar_TR said:

Yes and no!
We should carry a policy of duality. Just like we have been doing with Russia and Ukraine.
Stay independent. But at the same time give them limited hope that we are supportive of their cause. Use them without committing too deeply to rock the boat, as in Ukraine situation. Ukraine knows we are on their side. We support their unitary pre 2014 borders. Yet we have good relations with Russia.

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You know they want us to be in charge of the ''peaceforce'' right?
And why would they want us to lead,you think?