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Strong AI · Jun 25, 2025

International Anatolian Eagle-2025 Exercise has started.

Strong AI · Jun 25, 2025

Same talk as usual, but here...

Answering questions from members of the press, Erdoğan stated that negotiations on the Eurofighter are progressing positively, saying, “We have held and are continuing to hold talks with both the UK and Germany, and there are positive developments on this issue.”

President Erdoğan: “We discussed the F-35 issue. We paid 1.3 to 1.4 billion dollars regarding the F-35 program, and we saw that Mr. Trump was well-intentioned about delivering the F-35s.”

Erdoğan Lahey'de konuştu: İsrailli gazetecinin sorusuna net cevap! F-35'ler alınacak mı?

Haber 7 - Cumhurbaşkanı Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, "Uluslararası kurumlar, İsrail'i durdumakta yetersiz kalıyor, İsrail ihlallerine her geçen gün yenilerini ekliyor" dedi.

www.haber7.com

Sanchez · Jun 25, 2025

Strong AI said:
Mr. Trump was well-intentioned about delivering the F-35s.”

Erdoğan Lahey'de konuştu: İsrailli gazetecinin sorusuna net cevap! F-35'ler alınacak mı?

Haber 7 - Cumhurbaşkanı Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, "Uluslararası kurumlar, İsrail'i durdumakta yetersiz kalıyor, İsrail ihlallerine her geçen gün yenilerini ekliyor" dedi.

www.haber7.com

3 years later and they still don't know the most basic tenets of political system of our largest defence partner, or he simply don't understand it and his mind can't comprehend it. It's not up to Trump whether Turkey gets F-35s or not.

Sanchez · Jun 25, 2025

"Turkey can hope to soon receive modern Eurofighter fighter jets for its air force. Defense circles and senior officials from Germany expressed the expectation that the export deal will soon materialize.

Apparently, the German government intends to abandon its resistance. The news is likely to please Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who met with Chancellor Friedrich Merz ( CDU ) on Wednesday on the sidelines of the NATO summit in The Hague."

Handelsblatt

www.handelsblatt.com

Oublious · Jun 25, 2025

Sanchez said:
"Turkey can hope to soon receive modern Eurofighter fighter jets for its air force. Defense circles and senior officials from Germany expressed the expectation that the export deal will soon materialize.

Apparently, the German government intends to abandon its resistance. The news is likely to please Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who met with Chancellor Friedrich Merz ( CDU ) on Wednesday on the sidelines of the NATO summit in The Hague."

Handelsblatt

www.handelsblatt.com

Thats a good news, next thing is make the F16V deal and let the F35 go away.

Sanchez · Jun 25, 2025

Oublious said:
Thats a good news, next thing is make the F16V deal and let the F35 go away.

Not to be pedantic but there's no good news until deal is signed, production starts, training starts and the units are delivered to Balıkesir and Konya.

So far, just one good signal. Hopefully it's signed before end of summer.

Strong AI · Jun 25, 2025

Sanchez said:
Not to be pedantic but there's no good news until deal is signed, production starts, training starts and the units are delivered to Balıkesir and Konya.

So far, just one good signal. Hopefully it's signed before end of summer.

I really want to know what went wrong with Viper deal. Like did USA say we have to buy the modernization kits too, or are we delaying it because of hope for F-35?

Imo EF and Viper will be enough until KAAN. Just tell them to put our already paid money for F-35 into the Viper deal.

Sanchez · Jun 25, 2025

Strong AI said:
I really want to know what went wrong with Viper deal. Like did USA say we have to buy the modernization kits too, or are we delaying it because of hope for F-35?

I wish we had defence media who could ask these questions...

Strong AI said:
Imo EF and Viper will be enough until KAAN. Just tell them to put our already paid money for F-35 into the Viper deal.

Don't know what enough really means. We still need the F-35. We need it to undertake future joint NATO missions, to undertake nuclear sharing missions, to defend against other F-35s and to study how it works and performs to develop Kaan for the future. There's still no aircraft like F-35.

Strong AI · Jun 25, 2025

Sanchez said:
I wish we had defence media who could ask these questions...

Don't know what enough really means. We still need the F-35. We need it to undertake future joint NATO missions, to undertake nuclear sharing missions, to defend against other F-35s and to study how it works and performs to develop Kaan for the future. There's still no aircraft like F-35.

I mean enough so no one comes up with stupid ideas.

Afaik F-16 can carry nuclear ordnance. Or what do you mean?

Sanchez · Jun 25, 2025

Strong AI said:
Afaik F-16 can carry nuclear ordnance. Or what do you mean?

I'm pretty sure Özgürs will not be able to and I'm not sure if F-16V is certified for it.

TR_123456 · Jun 25, 2025

Strong AI said:
I mean enough so no one comes up with stupid ideas.

Afaik F-16 can carry nuclear ordnance. Or what do you mean?

So,you wouldnt want to know the ins and outs of the F-35?

Strong AI · Jun 25, 2025

TR_123456 said:
So,you wouldnt want to know the ins and outs of the F-35?

I wrote that because imo we won't get any F-35. But i hope we will get them (wishful thinking). So since i think that we won't get them, it doesn't make sense to run after them.

Sometimes i think if we wouldn't have showed so much interest in F-35, after we got kicked out, maybe the chances getting them would be higher.

TR_123456 · Jun 25, 2025

Strong AI said:
I wrote that because imo we won't get any F-35. But i hope we will get them. So since i think that we won't get them, it doesn't make sense to run after them.

There is a Dutch saying,''Nee heb je,ja kun je krijgen'' which translates to, you already have a ''No'' but jou can get a 'Yes''.
Which means even when you think the answer is no,you should still try to get a yes.

Strong AI · Jun 25, 2025

TR_123456 said:
There is a Dutch saying,''Nee heb je,ja kun je krijgen'' which translates to, you already have a ''No'' but jou can get a 'Yes''.
Which means even when you think the answer is no,you should still try to get a yes.

There is also a German saying, "Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt" which translates to "Hope dies last".

TR_123456 · Jun 25, 2025

Strong AI said:
There is also a German saying, "Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt" which translates to "Hope dies last".

Dont be such a pessimist,if they dont give them at least we know where we stand and what to do.
I'm sure we'll get them.

Cenkcnk · Jun 25, 2025

Same news, same words every year. complete nonsense. Both parties know and It is very obvious that we are not getting f35’s, eurofighters and most likely vipers either.
let’s hope we can get the engines and get the Kaan flying

Trakya_forever · Jun 26, 2025

I wonder the F110 engines for Kaan. We have only six for three prototypes.

Khagan1923 · Jun 28, 2025

The US is retiring 13 C-130H if some of them are still useable they could make short term replacements for our C-130Bs….

Yasar_TR · Jun 28, 2025

Khagan1923 said:
The US is retiring 13 C-130H if some of them are still useable they could make short term replacements for our C-130Bs….

C130H is the legacy platform model that has been in service many years. Knowing how US would use them, they must be at the end of their lives. Most likely will be replaced by more efficient, modern avionics fitted and cost effective C130J models.
Purchase of 12 or so C130Js from RAF is a better move. (They operate with crew of 3 rather than 5 of H model)

zio · Jun 28, 2025

We can see how good is the American F-16 with have glass on AE25

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