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[Strong AI]

So,you wouldnt want to know the ins and outs of the F-35?

I wrote that because imo we won't get any F-35. But i hope we will get them (wishful thinking). So since i think that we won't get them, it doesn't make sense to run after them.

Sometimes i think if we wouldn't have showed so much interest in F-35, after we got kicked out, maybe the chances getting them would be higher.

 

[TR_123456]

I wrote that because imo we won't get any F-35. But i hope we will get them. So since i think that we won't get them, it doesn't make sense to run after them.

There is a Dutch saying,''Nee heb je,ja kun je krijgen'' which translates to, you already have a ''No'' but jou can get a 'Yes''.
Which means even when you think the answer is no,you should still try to get a yes.

 

[Strong AI]

There is a Dutch saying,''Nee heb je,ja kun je krijgen'' which translates to, you already have a ''No'' but jou can get a 'Yes''.
Which means even when you think the answer is no,you should still try to get a yes.

There is also a German saying, "Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt" which translates to "Hope dies last".

 

[TR_123456]

There is also a German saying, "Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt" which translates to "Hope dies last".

Dont be such a pessimist,if they dont give them at least we know where we stand and what to do.
I'm sure we'll get them.

 

[Cenkcnk]

Same news, same words every year. complete nonsense. Both parties know and It is very obvious that we are not getting f35’s, eurofighters and most likely vipers either.
let’s hope we can get the engines and get the Kaan flying

 

[Trakya_forever]

I wonder the F110 engines for Kaan. We have only six for three prototypes.

 

[Khagan1923]

The US is retiring 13 C-130H if some of them are still useable they could make short term replacements for our C-130Bs….

 

[Yasar_TR]

The US is retiring 13 C-130H if some of them are still useable they could make short term replacements for our C-130Bs….

C130H is the legacy platform model that has been in service many years. Knowing how US would use them, they must be at the end of their lives. Most likely will be replaced by more efficient, modern avionics fitted and cost effective C130J models.
Purchase of 12 or so C130Js from RAF is a better move. (They operate with crew of 3 rather than 5 of H model)

 

[zio]

We can see how good is the American F-16 with have glass on AE25

 

[Khagan1923]

C130H is the legacy platform model that has been in service many years. Knowing how US would use them, they must be at the end of their lives. Most likely will be replaced by more efficient, modern avionics fitted and cost effective C130J models.
Purchase of 12 or so C130Js from RAF is a better move. (They operate with crew of 3 rather than 5 of H model)

Well ya but our Bs are older and in need of replacement oif they have still live left and come without any cost they could be cheap Short Term replacements.

Those 12 C-130J of which there is again radio silence won’t be nearly enough. And there seems no interest in additional A400M orders 🫠

Something needs to happen pur A400 are barely 10 years old and are getting hammered

 

[zio]

What is this?

 

[Sanchez]

What is this? View attachment 76140

F-16 Özgür cockpit with a T-38 at the background.

 

[Pokemonte13]

F-16 Özgür cockpit with a T-38 at the background.

not f16

 

[Strong AI]

F-16 Özgür cockpit with a T-38 at the background.

T-38M Cockpit, upgraded by TAI, deliveries started in 2012.

Turkish Air Force receives first upgraded T38M aircraft - Airforce Technology

Turkish Air Force (TurAF) has received the first prototype of the T38 jet trainer aircraft with an avionics upgrade from Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI).

www.airforce-technology.com

Aviation Photo #1986251: Northrop T-38M Talon - Turkey - Air Force

Front cockpit - Photo taken at Izmir - Cigli (IGL / LTBL) in Turkey on June 4, 2011.

www.airliners.net

 

[Sanchez]

I thought this was the photo released 2 months ago, didn't even look at the mid mounted stick, thanks

 

[Spitfire9]

Rüstungsindustrie: Eurofighter-Export an die Türkei steht kurz vor Zustimmung​

Die Ampel-Regierung hatte den von Großbritannien geplanten Kampfjet-Export an Ankara noch blockiert. Die Regierung unter Kanzler Merz will dem Geschäft nun offenbar nicht mehr im Weg stehen.


"Eurofighter export to Turkey is close to approval
The traffic light coalition had blocked Britain's planned export of fighter jets to Ankara. The government under Chancellor Merz apparently no longer wants to stand in the way of the deal."

 

[Yasar_TR]

Breaking News: Germany’s green light on Eurofighter Multirole Aircraft sale empowers Türkiye’s air force modernization

Breaking News: Germany’s green light on Eurofighter Multirole Aircraft sale empowers Türkiye’s air force modernization

armyrecognition.com

According to above article, finally on 26th June Germany has given the green light for the Typhoons for Turkey. It is up to the politicians and technical guys to make sure the purchase goes further now.

 

[harris]

Then there will be other possibilities to get engines elsewhere as an interim solution, you act as if there are no more alternatives on the market.
The Shenyang WS-10 Block C or D, for example has FADEC (this is based on the CFM56 engine which is essentially the core of the F101/F-110 family) it comes quite close to the F-110 in terms of performance and durability parameters, or even slightly above it, while at the same time it is only slightly longer than the F-110, the weight and diameter are about the same.
The Chinese would probably even offer a technology transfer, and quickly deliver e.g. 80 engines.
Just to drive a wedge within NATO that they distrust Turkey, which they have always done, see the sanctions and embargoes in the past by the US & EU.

To be clear, the US & EU are not friends and never will be.
If they could and if the damage to themselves was not so great, they would have wanted to break up Turkey in several pieces long ago. Only the massive fear and absolute resistance keeps them from doing so.

China will not sell ws10 to Turkey, technology transfer is a typical Turkish day dream
In the eye of china, nato is just a bunch of rubbish except USA
Turkey is not important for china

 

[Strong AI]

Breaking News: Germany’s green light on Eurofighter Multirole Aircraft sale empowers Türkiye’s air force modernization

Breaking News: Germany’s green light on Eurofighter Multirole Aircraft sale empowers Türkiye’s air force modernization

armyrecognition.com

According to above article, finally on 26th June Germany has given the green light for the Typhoons for Turkey. It is up to the politicians and technical guys to make sure the purchase goes further now.

Don't they only quote Handelsblatt?

"Turkey can hope to soon receive modern Eurofighter fighter jets for its air force. Defense circles and senior officials from Germany expressed the expectation that the export deal will soon materialize.

Apparently, the German government intends to abandon its resistance. The news is likely to please Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who met with Chancellor Friedrich Merz ( CDU ) on Wednesday on the sidelines of the NATO summit in The Hague."

Handelsblatt

www.handelsblatt.com

 

[Sanchez]

Don't they only quote Handelsblatt?

Yup, that's where all these positive ones came out in the last 2 days. It still doesn't mean a single thing until it's signed and order placed.