TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

Angry Turk !!! · Jul 28, 2025

TheInsider said:
If you triple the warhead weight, you won't triple the explosion radius; it doesn't work like that. Also, if you double the warhead weight, either the range of the missile is reduced by a lot, or you need to increase the weight of the missile a lot to carry a heavier warhead to the same distance.

Compared to other 2000Lbs bombs, is GAZAP more efficient than the others?

Trakya_forever · Jul 28, 2025

With KGK84 guidance kit Hayalet Nebs and Gazap will have 100 km range.

Yasar_TR · Jul 28, 2025

Trakya_forever said:
With KGK84 guidance kit Hayalet Nebs and Gazap will have 100 km range.

Hayalet is a bunker buster penetrator bomb. In order to penetrate, it is dropped from 30000+ft and hits the ground at supersonic speeds (1.3 Mach). If you let it glide you won’t get the penetrating power.

Zafer · Jul 28, 2025

To double the diameter of the affected ground space you need to increase the explosive charge by 8 times which will increase the missile weight by 8 times considering the same explosive fraction.

This is all because your explosion happens in a three dimensional manner spreading your effect not only sideways but also up and down. So you want to use like 3 or 4 of the smaller explosives rather than one double size ground coverage one. (4 small bombs give exactly the same space as one large one but you can get away with 3 for soft targets) Sketch made by Zafer.

Strong AI · Jul 29, 2025

TheInsider said:
Tayfun Block 4 is a hypersonic missile confirmed by the Roketsan General Director. Tayfun sustains hypersonic speeds throughout its flight, and impact happens at hypersonic speeds. Also, as i said ramjet engine of the Gökbora is ready. A bigger diameter ALBM is also on its way.
Here is an interview with English subtitles available.

How is it that the air-launched version of TRG-300 (120 kilometers range), the IHA-300, has a range of 500 kilometers?

— Roketsan General Manager Murat İkinci explained:

different fuel and different propulsion

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1950113991268978948

MonteCarlo · Jul 29, 2025

Strong AI said:
How is it that the air-launched version of TRG-300 (120 kilometers range), the IHA-300, has a range of 500 kilometers?

— Roketsan General Manager Murat İkinci explained:

different fuel and different propulsion

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1950113991268978948

There is also one extra factor talked about earlier in the video, IHA-300's diameter is 375mm not 300 despite the name. Air launched missiles probably allows for more unrestricted development phase due to not needing a standartized size to fit into multi-launch canisters and already existing systems.

Zafer · Jul 29, 2025

Larger size munitions of the IHA-300 type are also considered by Roketsan but you are limited by the carrying capacity of your planes.

MonteCarlo · Jul 29, 2025

Was there any news about the Kuzgun project in the IDEF? I was hoping that will start seeing more stuff after the last Kuzgun-SS test fire but it has been silent ever since.

TheInsider · Jul 29, 2025

Yes Kuzgun project is going on, but it has gotten lighter. Now, Kuzgun KY is around 80kg, and Kuzgun-TJ is around 85kg

Strong AI · Jul 29, 2025

TheInsider said:
Yes Kuzgun project is going on, but it has gotten lighter. Now, Kuzgun KY is around 80kg, and Kuzgun-TJ is around 85kg

KUZGUN - Modular Guided Munition Family - TÜBİTAK SAGE

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www.sage.tubitak.gov.tr

Trakya_forever · Jul 29, 2025

I wonder Göktan's maximum range. İt is not 150 km.

Osman · Jul 30, 2025

In a video Kozan Selçuk said it is much more than 200 km

I_Love_F16 · Aug 3, 2025

Don’t know if this was already posted, but apparently Roketsan has unveiled the ER-300 missile (IHA-300) with 500+ km of range.

boredaf · Aug 3, 2025

I_Love_F16 said:
Don’t know if this was already posted, but apparently Roketsan has unveiled the ER-300 missile (IHA-300) with 500+ km of range.

It was mentioned either here or in the Idef 25 thread.

Agha Sher · Aug 3, 2025

boredaf said:
It was mentioned either here or in the Idef 25 thread.

Can it be fired from Akinci drones?

Strong AI · Aug 3, 2025

Agha Sher said:
Can it be fired from Akinci drones?

Yes

edit:
hence the IHA-300 name.

Agha Sher · Aug 3, 2025

Strong AI said:
Yes

edit:
hence the IHA-300 name.

And it would be able to carry two IHA-300 for a strike mission?

500+ km is an insane range!

I_Love_F16 · Aug 3, 2025

Agha Sher said:
And it would be able to carry two IHA-300 for a strike mission?

500+ km is an insane range!

No, because the missile weight 900 kilos. So with the Akinci you will be able to carry just one, under the belly.

Strong AI · Aug 3, 2025

I_Love_F16 said:
under the belly

I doubt that it will be the belly station, more like one of the stations right next to it. The problem is the landing gear and uav-300 is much longer than the bomb in this picture.

boredaf · Aug 3, 2025

Strong AI said:
I doubt that it will be the belly station, more like one of the stations right next to it. The problem is the landing gear and uav-300 is much longer than the bomb in this picture.

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Has Akıncı carried 1 ton munition in its inner pylon before? I can't remember anything heavier than either Çakır or UAV-230. Also, wouldn't that cause abysmal weight distribution that could effect the drone?

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