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Another 350+ million Dollars early warning radar order from Aselsan in the NATO summit
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Pokemonte13
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What is mls
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Unsure, probably Maritime Launch Services. It's a Canadian space launch company. These videos are from the "look Trump, we are spending money for NATO" campaign of Rutte. They bundle up any and all deals that are being signed in the past and future 2 months and show a big shiny number.
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Was wondering because all non turkish companies are more of a start up than real producing companies. Would have given our companies most of the value but these are just national contracts and have more or less nothing to do with nato.
At the heart of ÇELİKKUBE, the latest developments in the Oğulbey investment:
ASELSAN General Manager Ahmet Akyol:
"This is a $1.5 billion investment. Once completed, we're talking about a facility with 1 million square meters of enclosed space. Along with this, we are striving to produce our existing capabilities in higher quantities and expand them first to Türkiye and then to various friendly and allied countries. We commissioned a part of our Oğulbey investment in June."
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An extra 24 billion dollars for celik kubbe.
Future budget allocation for the next 5-10 only for airdefence.
If this was in the west it wouldn't amount to much but for us that is like 60 billion dollars (PPP)
if a siper battery cost roughly 250 million that would amount to 96 batteries(just to show the scale)
Future budget allocation for the next 5-10 only for airdefence.
If this was in the west it wouldn't amount to much but for us that is like 60 billion dollars (PPP)
if a siper battery cost roughly 250 million that would amount to 96 batteries(just to show the scale)
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24 billion dollars budget for Steel Dome
What we are trying to do with steel dome is unifying are entire battle picture so anything that can detect or shoot will be part of steel dome in the end. So some better clarification on what counts as steel dome investment and what doesn't is needed
Very nice amount but my main question is that what classifies as "Steel Dome component"? We have seen ES/EW systems classified as Steel dome delivery so is Koral and Hava Soj steel dome investment too? Is TF-2000 steel dome? Is a AKINCI with a Fulmar-500 steel dome? Because they all are going to be a part of it in some way.
What we are trying to do with steel dome is unifying are entire battle picture so anything that can detect or shoot will be part of steel dome in the end. So some better clarification on what counts as steel dome investment and what doesn't is needed
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as far as i know steel dome is only land based systems including ew systems, radar... and not TF2000 otherwise its not such a large number. But still 24 billion for just air defence is good
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Even if we count all systems related to air defence because we can produce much cheaper it would still get us far
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24 billion more than likely is not just systems purchases but also non recurring costs like new installations to build them etc. Aselsan is state owned; what Aselsan spends can easily be added as part of budgeting.
But indeed, this very fast almost lightning speed procurement spree will continue.
But indeed, this very fast almost lightning speed procurement spree will continue.
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It doesn't matter what costs are counted towards 24 billion. This is a huge amount. It is likely to be allocated for the next 10 years, so approximately $ 2.4 billion per year. We won't have any air defense problems by 2035. Erdoğan mentions 2030, but this is the target date to reach %5 total security spending (%3.5 armed forces %1.5 other spending), and it is not realistic to spend 4.8 billion per year on air defense.
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net security spending by 2030 will be like 70 billion dollars if not more
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Listen again.
He mentions %3,5 defense spending by 2030 and adds we are already spending %1,5 on security which means we will reach %5 target by 2030. Defense spending and security spending are 2 different things.
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i know thats why our security spending is 50 billion and defence is 30-35 billion.
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%3,5 is not too shabby but let's not forget that only a quarter to one third of this amount is spent on new purchases, so let's assume we reached a GDP of 1.8T $ by 2030. Defense spending will be 63 billion $. We can expect 16-21 billion for new purchases.
