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This is a new piece of article on emerging CCA engines similar to the TF6000 class



So this makes TF-6000 lead in this field, our UCAV KE will be the first :D. Can GE make it happen in 3 years, they plan it to be ready in 3 years.
 

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So this makes TF-6000 lead in this field, our UCAV KE will be the first :D. Can GE make it happen in 3 years, they plan it to be ready in 3 years.
They probably can because now it became an urgency for them as they fell behind in this field while they are mostly leaders in the broader field.
 

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Mr Mahmut Aksit

The TF6000 engine is performing well despite it not having cooling

I think he means the turbine blades in this configuration of the engine do not have cooling channels as they should.
 
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The TF6000 engine is performing well despite it not having cooling

I think he means the turbine blades in this configuration of the engine do not have cooling channels as they should.
So,why dont they have cooling,the reason?
 

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So,why dont they have cooling,the reason?
I have no idea but there are levels of cooling and probably some of the technologies have not been implemented on the running prototypes. If they could reach practically the design thrust levels without cooling, a well cooled engine can go beyond the current thrust levels.
 

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So,why dont they have cooling,the reason?
A turbofan engine uses many methods of cooling.
The turbine blades have air cooling channels and ceramic surface treatments to help with temperature control. These have to be working in the prototypes. But the rest of the engine needs cooling as well. As well as the complete engine cooling; the air that cools blades are kept cool with transferring this heat to the fuel with heat exchangers before it is being used.
Also compressor section has a lot of “cooler” air that is used to cool the engine.

But the cooling systems on a turbofan depend on high speed rammed air into the compressors during flight. Because stationary ground runs for the engine lack the high-speed ram air of actual flight, dedicated facility-based systems are used to manage temperatures and simulate flight conditions. If this specific cooling is not available in an engine that is stationary and not on for testing purposes, it would strain the smooth working of a turbofan.
 

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The latest issue of defence turkey,İ.Sünnetçi made a reportage with Kalejet.İn suumary:
1. For SOM-j missile either KTJ3200 and KTJ3700 on agenda.
2.KTJ 3200 and Ktj3700 can not suitable for high altitute(10 km) firing,cumbation not designed accordingly,but missiles can be released from 10km,firing will follow at 5km.
3.Arat project will closed at mid 2027 with acceptance.
4.KTJ 400 and ktj 1200 will be added to portfolia when test finished.
 

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The latest issue of defence turkey,İ.Sünnetçi made a reportage with Kalejet.İn suumary:
1. For SOM-j missile either KTJ3200 and KTJ3700 on agenda.
2.KTJ 3200 and Ktj3700 can not suitable for high altitute(10 km) firing,cumbation not designed accordingly,but missiles can be released from 10km,firing will follow at 5km.
3.Arat project will closed at mid 2027 with acceptance.
4.KTJ 400 and ktj 1200 will be added to portfolia when test finished.
Weekly production at 10 engines for the last period (520 engines total) and suitable infrastructure for 4 digit. You don’t build an infrastructure for nothing
 

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TEI has a pooling system of engineers and scientists, but TF-6000 and TF-10000 still suffer from a lack of workforce. Every available resource is redirected to the TF-35000 project. Luckily, like %60-70 percent of the TF-6000 were completed before dedicating everything to TF-35000. At this point TF-10000 is massively delayed.
 

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TEI has a pooling system of engineers and scientists, but TF-6000 and TF-10000 still suffer from a lack of workforce. Every available resource is redirected to the TF-35000 project. Luckily, like %60-70 percent of the TF-6000 were completed before dedicating everything to TF-35000. At this point TF-10000 is massively delayed.
If TF 10000 is delayed what would happen to TS 3000?
 

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TEI has a pooling system of engineers and scientists, but TF-6000 and TF-10000 still suffer from a lack of workforce. Every available resource is redirected to the TF-35000 project. Luckily, like %60-70 percent of the TF-6000 were completed before dedicating everything to TF-35000. At this point TF-10000 is massively delayed.
If the TF-10000 is massively delayed, wouldnt that delay the TF-35000 as well?
As far as I remember, TEI planned to have the TF-35000 working by the end of 2028 and incorporate it into KAAN by the end of 2029/early 2030 for 2 years of testing following the official delivery by 2032
 

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If the TF-10000 is massively delayed, wouldnt that delay the TF-35000 as well?
Different programs.

TEI planned to have the TF-35000 working by the end of 2028 and incorporate it into KAAN by the end of 2029/early 2030
This timeline is only correct in the minds of propagandists.
 

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If the TF-10000 is massively delayed, wouldnt that delay the TF-35000 as well?
As far as I remember, TEI planned to have the TF-35000 working by the end of 2028 and incorporate it into KAAN by the end of 2029/early 2030 for 2 years of testing following the official delivery by 2032
Not necessarily. TEI has a limited pool of engineers to run all those projects, and engineers are allocated to certain tasks from that pool. Let's assume you need 200 engineers to hit the timeline targets of TF-10000, but you can only allocate 20 engineers from the pool due to the ambitious timeline and needs of the TF-35000 project. This is what happened to the TF-6k/10k project. TEI redirected a lot of engineers to the TF-35000 project, which slowed down, especially TF-10000. TF-6000 was nearly done when engineers redirected to the TF-35000 project, but TF-6000 will also see delays because the work on iterative prototypes might slow down. Limited resources, overlapping priorities.
 
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