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They signed a Defence Pact with Greece in 2021, they have Bases on Cyprus. Remember that Words what Macron said in Cyprus:





Even it is not happening, it's better to be prepared ! To counter the Threat from a french CSG, our current Capabillities are not enogh ! To deter an enemy CSG from entering the eastern Mediteranean, we need to built up:

- The Air Force anti - Ship Missile Capabillity
- an ASBM & ramjet powered AShM Arsenal against Aircraft Carrier & Helicopter Carrier and replishment Ships.
- deploy Barbaros Land Batteries(they are not in Srvice)
- establish an (stealth)Drone ISR and Space based ISR Network(our first SAR Satelitte will enter Service arround 2028 - 2030).
That statement by Macron was for the Iranaian drones hit in South Cyprus. So please try add some context.
I agree with making sure we have an edge in the Med and making sure we are ready for any scenario but you're portraying France as some enemy to TR is dishonest . We're discussing about Med here too, not Africa which is a totally different subject.
 

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That statement by Macron was for the Iranaian drones hit in South Cyprus. So please try add some context.
I agree with making sure we have an edge in the Med and making sure we are ready for any scenario but you're portraying France as some enemy to TR is dishonest . We're discussing about Med here too, not Africa which is a totally different subject.
Macron clearly said very recently that if Greece‘s sovereignty is threatened they should do what is needed and France will be there to support them. So which Med and Africa you are talking about?? France is clearly our enemy and we need to prepare accordingly.
 

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Macron clearly said very recently that if Greece‘s sovereignty is threatened they should do what is needed and France will be there to support them. So which Med and Africa you are talking about?? France is clearly our enemy and we need to prepare accordingly.
Macron and France are too scared to even help USA against Iran, yet here you are trying to act like they pose any threat to Turkiye. Please don't make me laugh.
The only conflict with France I see is in Africa and even that I am not too sure about.
France and Europe as a whole is over. I see new alliances being formed and Turkiye will be in the center of it.
Greece's 200-years of living off Europe is coming to an end.
 

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Trolling/flamebait is strictly not allowed. Culprit has been dealt with.

Everyone advised to stay on topic.
 

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Israel, Greece, Cyprus, and the United States just launched the East Med Energy Center.

4 countries that don't always agree on much are aligning around energy, tech, cybersecurity, and critical infrastructure in one of the world's most contested regions.

According to a joint statement, the four countries will begin a series of working group meetings in the coming months to develop a roadmap outlining goals and actions in areas such as energy security, offshore natural gas development, infrastructure, innovation, and research.

The roadmap is expected to be approved before the end of the year.

The agreement was reached during talks attended by the energy ministers of the four countries.

US Energy Secretary Chris Wright stated that the initiative would promote “energy abundance, economic development, and regional stability” through closer cooperation among the partner countries.
 

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The Greek National Security Council (KYSEA) has decided to make its military presence in Southern Cyprus permanent, citing instability in the Middle East.

The KYSEA, which met under the chairmanship of Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, decided to change the status of the Greek Air Force elements temporarily deployed to the island following the drone attack on RAF Akrotiri in March to a "permanent military presence."

A senior Greek security official stated, "Asymmetric risks in the region and the security of the Cyprus Flight Information Region (FIR) have necessitated a structural deterrence mechanism beyond temporary rotations. The decision is entirely defensive."

Air Force: The presence of Greek F-16 fighter jets based at the Andreas Papandreou Air Base in Paphos, Cyprus, will be made permanent. It is planned that F-4 Phantom aircraft will also be deployed to the region in the future, depending on operational needs on the island.

Naval Forces: Elements of the Hellenic Navy will conduct a permanent maritime patrol and surveillance mission in Cyprus's so-called Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). The frigate Elli (F-450), currently active in the region and most recently participating in the Nikitis-Dimitra 2026 exercise, will be central to the permanent presence on the island through rotational crew changes.
 

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The Greek Cypriot administration, ostensibly to ensure its security against Türkiye, is giving away all the oil and natural gas reserves it possesses in the Eastern Mediterranean to countries like Israel, America, and France.

If it had formed an alliance with Turkey, it could have possessed all these resources independently; now it has to settle for a small percentage, perhaps 10% or nothing.
 

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The Greek Cypriot administration, ostensibly to ensure its security against Türkiye, is giving away all the oil and natural gas reserves it possesses in the Eastern Mediterranean to countries like Israel, America, and France.

If it had formed an alliance with Turkey, it could have possessed all these resources independently; now it has to settle for a small percentage, perhaps 10% or nothing.
They are doing what they think is needed to get support to twart Türkiye. Nothing wrong with that, but what we need is to have a stronger Navy and PRESENCE, not using old vessels that should be retired.

We also need to empower our Coast Guard with OPV and such to deterre harrasment. Just look at how China is enforcing its presence in West Philippine Seas.
 

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Four Turkish frigates approached within hundreds of meters of the Stil Strait near Cyprus. Following the altercation, the Israeli ships changed their course.
As confirmed by journalist Ariel Kahane, during an exercise in the Mediterranean, a Turkish naval vessel approached an Israeli naval vessel, blocking its progress and causing the Israeli forces to change their course.
 

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That's to be expected. I think what's just as important is the presence I mentioned. Our fishermen and citizens must be able to sail freely in all of our EEZ without being antagonized by adversaries. So either TCG needs vessels to be PRESENT, or TN must have more I-class Frigates.

I think TCG would be a better pick and cheaper due to the vessels to be used would be OPV type and not as heavily armed as our Frigates.
 

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Four Turkish frigates approached within hundreds of meters of the Stil Strait near Cyprus. Following the altercation, the Israeli ships changed their course.
As confirmed by journalist Ariel Kahane, during an exercise in the Mediterranean, a Turkish naval vessel approached an Israeli naval vessel, blocking its progress and causing the Israeli forces to change their course.
What the heck is "Stil Strait"?
 

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President Erdoğan signs the decree declaring the waters around Meis (Kastellorizo) Island a National Marine Park! With this historic move, Greece’s EEZ claims in the region are officially wiped out.

 

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How does RTE signing decree declaring the area a maritime park change things ?

National marine parks—more accurately referred to as Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)—established in or adjacent to the high seas do not legally grant a state the right to claim an Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) out of nothing. However, under international maritime law, they serve as one of the most strategic tools to legitimize, strengthen, and manifest the sovereign rights necessary to anchor an EEZ claim [BMDHS].
The analysis of how these open-sea marine parks contribute to EEZ declarations under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) is structured below.



1. Evidence of Effective Control (Effectivités)

2. Utilizing "Green Geopolitics" for Legitimacy

3. Leverage in Maritime Boundary Delimitations

4. Anchoring Rights to Marine Genetic Resources (MGR)

5. Synergy with the BBNJ Agreement (High Seas Treaty)
 
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National marine parks—more accurately referred to as Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)—established in or adjacent to the high seas do not legally grant a state the right to claim an Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) out of nothing. However, under international maritime law, they serve as one of the most strategic tools to legitimize, strengthen, and manifest the sovereign rights necessary to anchor an EEZ claim [BMDHS].
The analysis of how these open-sea marine parks contribute to EEZ declarations under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) is structured below.



1. Evidence of Effective Control (Effectivités)

2. Utilizing "Green Geopolitics" for Legitimacy

3. Leverage in Maritime Boundary Delimitations

4. Anchoring Rights to Marine Genetic Resources (MGR)

5. Synergy with the BBNJ Agreement (High Seas Treaty)
If that is the case why haven't we declared more Marine Parks ?
 

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Previously, the Gökçeada Underwater National Park, covering a small area, and numerous other special marine protected areas were declared. However, regional-based policies, not bay/beach-based ones, are needed to protect marine habitats and their cleanliness.

In fact, not only is there a presidential decree, but all three Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) were registered on the Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission (IOC) map under UNESCO on August 2, 2025; the presidential decree was published one year later.

The 21,706 square kilometer Fethiye-Kaş Marine National Park is home to habitats of critical importance for marine mammals. The region contains nesting and feeding grounds for many species, primarily sea turtles. While the Fethiye-Kaş line is mostly known for loggerhead turtles, it is an endemic area for numerous species, both on the coast and on the seabed, ensuring their survival. This marine environment is our national treasure and needs to be protected for future generations.

Preparations are underway to publish more Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) in Türkiye's surrounding seas. It is expected that at least 2 or 3 more MPAs will be declared by the end of 2027. In this context, the protection of marine ecosystems and the implementation of environmental measures are planned within these MPAs.

Another issue is the preservation of the cleanliness and naturalness of Turkish territorial waters. Turkiye has approximately 600 Blue Flag beaches, and plans are underway to increase this number. Public beaches with free entry are also beginning to be included in these standards. There are very strict environmental regulations regarding boats in Turkish territorial waters. Turkiye uses one of the most advanced digital tracking systems in the world to protect marine cleanliness, especially in yacht tourism. Turkiye completely prohibits boats from dumping bilge water, domestic wastewater (black/grey water), and garbage into the sea in its territorial waters. This is permitted in Greek territorial waters once a certain clearance is reached. This system, coordinated by the Turkish Environmental Agency (TÜÇA), allows for transparent digital monitoring of waste disposal processes for all private yachts and pleasure boats under 400 GRT, while Greece has weak oversight and relies on declarations. Strict regulations mandate the presence of wastewater tanks on all vessels navigating territorial waters and prohibit discharge, although Greece has lower standards in this area. Turkiye, thanks to pioneering legal regulations such as the Blue Card Tracking System and strong technical infrastructure in its modern marinas, maintains its image as one of the leading countries with "the cleanest and best-protected bays in the world." This makes Türkiye a much more attractive and reliable destination, especially for luxury yacht owners and environmentally conscious international tourists. But the most important thing is ensuring that this national asset is passed on to future generations without pollution.

These measures taken to protect the cleanliness and habitat of our seas are also in Greece's interest; politicizing this issue is completely unnecessary.
 

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